'10-14 Shelby Mustangs

What does ol Shelby have up his sleeve ?

Old Dec 29, 2011 | 12:10 PM
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I bought it for 26k with 3k miles.
No worries then. Good deal.
Which brings me to my next plan. Buy a Shelby a year old or so. Save the hit. Strip the Shelby from it and sell the pieces. Make it my own design with no Shelby influences.
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Old Dec 29, 2011 | 12:15 PM
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it would be better to start with a GT and whipple and a eibach kit and a exhaust.

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Old Dec 29, 2011 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Flagstang
it would be better to start with a GT and whipple and a eibach kit and a exhaust.
Maybe a Boss motor. Coyote is all forged and can handle the power. Regular GT 5.0 will probably blow up at 700hp. The 5.8L should push 700+ easily. Need a better base to start with than a gt. Go big or go home.
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Old Dec 29, 2011 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
Wouldn't we like to drop the Shelby trademarks and save about $8k off a cobra? Some people buy them because they say Shelby and that is ok. It's cool in its own right.
And here is where I am left scratching my head. A new GT500 stickers for just under 50k. Does anybody here actually think this car would sticker for less than 42k if the Shelby badge went away? Reality just got left at the last mile marker with that. 42k isn't even a thousand more than a base Boss 302. Even better, I can easily top that price with a Boss 302 without going to the Laguna Seca package. It goes without saying, but a Laguna Seca blows that price out of the water.

Ford didn't secure the use of the Shelby moniker and then charge more because the badge forced them to, they secured use of the Shelby moniker so they could charge what they felt was an appropriate price for the car in the first place. The marketing scheme for prior Cobra badged cars didn't work, so they moved to a formula they thought would work and they were right.

Far more likely than the notion that this car would sell for less without the Shelby badging is the likelihood that the car might not be here at all without the Shelby badging.

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Old Dec 29, 2011 | 12:27 PM
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Well there is a market for just the cobra. The terminator is still one of the most desirable mustangs and are still in demand.

I would NOT buy a F150. But I would buy a Raptor. Whether it says SVT or not. SVT has its own following but yeah, maybe the Shelby badging might have sold a few more units. Hey Ford, I would like the option.
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Old Dec 29, 2011 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jsaylor

Far more likely than the notion that this car would sell for less without the Shelby badging is the likelihood that the car might not be here at all without the Shelby badging.
I agree with this J. The Shelby badge brought out nostalgic buyers who remembered the Shelby Cobras and GT350 and such. There's no doubt in my mind Ford sold more of these cars with his name than they would have sold without it. And I'd also agree that were it not for that the 2013 GT500 might not exist nor would the ZL-1 for that matter. I'll give credit where it's due.

But that still doesn't mean I want the car because of his name on it. But I do want the car and am **** glad it's coming.
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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 11:34 AM
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The thing about Carrol Shelby is that he is not afraid to bring out a car that stands out. A 2012 Shelby GT350 makes one stop in their tracks and look at it. I dont think Ford would put those big in your face racing stripes on the GT500 without the insistance of Carrol Shelby. Ford usually offers their cars with less flair. Everytime I see a GT500 with racing stripes come down the road, I pull over to the side of the road and watch it go by.
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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 11:39 AM
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the gt350 is so ugly.. end of thought
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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Flagstang
the gt350 is so ugly.. end of thought
+1

It's horrid!
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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Flagstang
the gt350 is so ugly.. end of thought
Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs

+1

It's horrid!
If someone gives a GT350 to either of you as a gift, feel free to pass it on to me. I am not that picky.
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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by phiggs54
If someone gives a GT350 to either of you as a gift, feel free to pass it on to me. I am not that picky.
I would sell it and buy a raptor and a sho/mustang gt(pay mine off)
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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 12:35 PM
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I don't think the GT350 is ugly, but it definitely looks like an aftermarket body kit on a production car and not a factory piece which is, IMO, as bad as being ugly if not worse. If I'm spending that much on a car, I want it to look like a factory piece.
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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Flagstang

I would sell it and buy a raptor and a sho/mustang gt(pay mine off)
LOL

Are you a wannabe?

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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jsaylor
I don't think the GT350 is ugly, but it definitely looks like an aftermarket body kit on a production car and not a factory piece which is, IMO, as bad as being ugly if not worse. If I'm spending that much on a car, I want it to look like a factory piece.
^This!


And Patrick. If I was given a 2012 GT350 I would sell it, pay the taxes, and buy that 69 Mach 1
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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by phiggs54
LOL

Are you a wannabe?

james bond 007?
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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by phiggs54
If someone gives a GT350 to either of you as a gift, feel free to pass it on to me. I am not that picky.
I like it. Has some classic 350 cues with the modern S197 lines - and got rid of that bich black diaper. And it performs. Wouldn't pay that much for it though.
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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 04:31 PM
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I like the last paragraph (I wear plain-pocket T's because I don't want to pay for a swoosh on them.) But your failure to acknowledge an endorsement has no marketing value is a total disconnect.
I never stated as such nor implied it neither directly or indirectly. Having 'Shelby' plastered all over the car appeals to quite a few. My argument since the beginning is that the monies that are used to pay for the use of the name add zero to the performance of the vehicle.

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Nike pays LeBron millions to wear a sweatshirt with a swoosh on it. Cannon paid Andre Aggassi millions to endorse a camera. (What the hell does a tennis player know about making a camera?) Ford paid Eddie Bauer to put the name on a trim level of their Explorer.

I do understand your point, having LeBron endorse it, or Andre, or Eddie Bauer, does not magically make the product better. Having David Ortiz's signature on your Louisville Slugger won't make you a better hitter. (But don't blame the bat--I was always reaching for that outside curve.) Shelby's name on a Mustang does not make it go faster--however, in counterpoint it doesn't slow it down either.

The Shelby name has a value...Ford has a marketing arm. Somebody, somewhere, must have decided that there was a value to using Shelby. Those people decided there was more value in using Shelby GT500 than using SVT Cobra.

Personally, I don't care if Shelby's name is on the car. (Nor do I care if SVT is on the car. In fact I don't even like stripes on the car, but I have no objection if Ford wants to offer them. And I have no quarrel with those who prefer stripes.) But I am not going to pretend that a Shelby branded product has no market value.
Like I said before, all the stars aligned , just right. The retro scheme, the exclusive powerplant, etc. Those in Ford's marketing circles were giddy to have Shelby's name all over the car, dealers even more $o. The Shelby stickers, letters, etc, have a lot of worth for those eager to own what they feel is some sort of piece of history. Something special.

What would be great would be a GT500 with the Shelby delete package. No plastic letters, no vinyl stripes, no oversize plastic snakes on the fenders/grille. Sold for a few thousand less, and sitting right next to the Shelby GT500 on the showroom floor. Ford could offer all the Shelby glitz in an installation package from the dealer if someone wanted to add it later. They'd sell every car, and every owner would have money in his pocket to start modding. Guess who'd be upset about that? Hint - it wouldn't be the owners of the plain Jane version...

Originally Posted by AlsCobra
The cobra should stand for the better engine option for sure. Too bad they can't be ordered like they were in the late 60's.
See above.

Originally Posted by AlsCobra
I don't care if it just has a blue a**hole on the trunk lid only. Just give me the 5.8L supercharged option.
All I wanted was the engine, transmission and brakes in an S197 chassis from Ford. But the only way (as we all know) was to pay more for....er.....some kind of futuristic (hopefully) windfall, long after most of us are gone.

Originally Posted by AlsCobra
Which brings me to my next plan. Buy a Shelby a year old or so...Strip the Shelby from it and sell the pieces.
I'm with you. In fact, I'm already there.



No more zit faced adolescents asking how much or how fast at every gas station. No more cops following me for miles simply because of two parallel stripes. No more challenges from everything from grandma's Buick to Cooter's '63 pickup truck. Just quiet stares when the key is turned, and confusion from among the masses.
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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 06:30 PM
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If anyone thinks that an SVT mustang will be one dollar less than the one with Shelby's name on it, you're DREAMING.
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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
^This!


And Patrick. If I was given a 2012 GT350 I would sell it, pay the taxes, and buy that 69 Mach 1

Not me no interest in any old Mustang. An old Shelby well maybe but in all honesty I'd rather have the 2011 GT350.
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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 11SHELBYGT500
If anyone thinks that an SVT mustang will be one dollar less than the one with Shelby's name on it, you're DREAMING.
No it wouldn't...even the termis were getting up in price for that year and with a 3 year gap without a production of a high end mustang like that the price increase was completely normal....and a Cobra is due...Shelby's name on the mustang has once again almost run its course...a new Cobra will be made and it will be just as expensive...hopefully we won't have to wait 3 years in between production again.
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