2007-2008 Shelby GT The Third S197 Shelby Mustang

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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 09:45 PM
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I said that they were way over priced for what you get. I never said anyone was buying for speed. I also was not being disagreeable, in fact I didn't try to dispute anyone just give my 2 cents. I know why folks are picking these cars up. It has more to do with them coming from the shelby shop. It's a nice looking car and I would get one but 50,000 no way. The base price for the one I saw was 31,000. If you think that the upgrades and the name are worth 19,000 that's up to you.
If you add the S/C (4795 to buy one off the web site this may be the one I get) then I would guess you would be pushing 60,000.
I don't think they're over priced, mine was 41K with all the options including Nav. The "base price" is what ever a standard GT is in the configuration you've ordered. The Shelby work is an additional 8K. Of course don't get me started on ADM but mine was MSRP so no issue there.

In another forum someone has calculated the price and labor rates to install the same parts locally ordered from FRP and the total was around 6K. Seems to me 2K isn't a high price to pay for a piece of Mustang history, but again that's my opinion. You voted not to buy one and I did...guess that's that!
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 04:50 AM
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... I was just wondering if it's a big deal here and nowhere else or widespread. Doesn't seem to be as big an issue over at stangsunleashed.
TMS has more traffic with more refined members than Stangs Unleashed, and Shelby Autos is not about to assist with any negatives. The criticism will come from the undecided and non interested not from those with plans to get one but if it wasn't for the issues being discussed Shelby Autos would not be looking for alternatives.
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by GTH395
The "base price" is what ever a standard GT is in the configuration you've ordered. The Shelby work is an additional 8K.
Thats why I said "If you think that the upgrades and the name are worth 19,000 that's up to you."
Sounds like you got a good deal but I don't think that will be the norm. It's like the GT500 not to many are getting them with out the ADM. I hope you enjoy the car at 41k it is much more in line with what it should go out the door for. Look at what the ADM did to the new T-Bird.

I have been around this site for some time now and I have never tried to bring anyone down sorry if I did.
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 06:46 AM
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The criticism will come from the undecided and non interested not from those with plans to get one...
or the no longer interested.
Good point.
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 07:19 AM
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TMS has more traffic with more refined members than Stangs Unleashed, and Shelby Autos is not about to assist with any negatives. The criticism will come from the undecided and non interested not from those with plans to get one but if it wasn't for the issues being discussed Shelby Autos would not be looking for alternatives.
Wow....not sure what to say to this elitist comment. "More refined"? It's pretty sad when people start to talk this way about others who may disagree with them. It's sort of a catch all remark when logic fails you. Also comes in handy if you run out of things to say in a debate and want to throw out a generalization your opponent can't respond to. Nice work!

I just went over to the Shelby forum and found more than it's share of criticism around the terrible grill controversy, some stripe issues, and a few hood scoop concerns. But I suspect these people just aren't "refined" enough to notice more.

As for no interest...some people here seem to be pretty interested in a car they aren't going to buy. In fact pretty obsessive I'd say!

I have owned more than my share of Mustang, I've shown them, raced them, and make enough money to buy almost any other car you can find a on a dealer lot. But I enjoy the cars and they're my hobby.

I came here looking for other like minded people who love these cars instead I feel like I'm in a Camaro forum with the way you guys tear down any car, especially this one, that you don't feel measures up or isn't your preference. I for sure don't feel welcome here and that's a shame. Maybe I'm just not refined enough heh?

Do I think the car is above criticisms NO...come on, it's a Mustang! The car we love with the "barbie car" interior. The crappy rear end axle, the lack or rear floor mats, the car that has sat at 300Hp for far too long and will soon get eaten for breakfast by Camaros.

Oh well..I'm outta here...I see this isn't a forum for Mustang or Shelby GT enthusiasts but a place where people can go tear each other down.

Have fun all, I'll see you on the highway...I'll be the guy in the over priced white SGT with C6 hood and shelby rear wing. No doubt going slow...
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 10:50 AM
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Sometimes politeness can be ineffective.

Those who have the knowledge and deal with reality are usually better off than the idiots who get consumed by blind enthusiasm.

"... and it's better resale value when compared with a GT even with all the FRP parts etc..."


Perhaps checking the actual value of a 2006 GT-H would be a comparrisson you can relate to. It might even give a notion on your projected "better resale value". If you think you have discovered Utopia then knock yourself out. I strongly suggest when you wake up you open your front door and take a look.
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by GTH395
I have owned more than my share of Mustang, I've shown them, raced them, and make enough money to buy almost any other car you can find a on a dealer lot. But I enjoy the cars and they're my hobby.
Originally Posted by GTH395
The car we love with the "barbie car" interior.
Originally Posted by GTH395
The crappy rear end axle...
Originally Posted by GTH395
...the lack or rear floor mats...
Originally Posted by GTH395
...the car that has sat at 300Hp for far too long and will soon get eaten for breakfast by Camaros.
Originally Posted by GTH395
I see this isn't a forum for Mustang or Shelby GT enthusiasts.


A "Mustang enthusiast," huh? Anybody notice more than a few contradictory remarks above?

"Make[s] enough money to buy almost any other car you can find on a dealer lot," eh?

If it's "elitists" you're looking for, I've found there's plenty in the Shelby section over at StangsUnleashed.
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by GTH395

Oh, and when you race that SGT, hope it's not one of the many ordered with the optional Supercharger at 475HP.


I'm your huckleberry

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Oh yeah, bring me that Camaro too...
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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JMO the first shelby were race winners that were the history is, THis car has done nothing but have people fight about the value.paying an adm on old history is a big gambel. Let the dices roll. the car without the adm would be fun to own.Any more let go to Vegas were all you need is luck!!!
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 11:11 PM
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Here is my take on this. I was excited about the SGT until I found the actual price to be way more than anticipated price. I am just picking up a loaded GT/CS w/NAV and every available option for just under 30K, (MSRP just under 34K) after I have done 2-3k in mods, I will have the exact same car as the Shelby GT, I'm not trying to copy it , these are mods I would have done anyway.. I'll still be well under 34K but I wont have a Shelby serial # and an autographed dash plaque. price diference = 6k to 35k depending on ADM....
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 12:49 AM
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I was one of those who lusted after a Shelby in the beginning. Part of me still clings to those days of yesteryear.

But another part of me thinks that the Shelby mystique belongs to a bygone era. IMHO, the conspiracy between Ford, Shelby and the dealers to cash in on this mystique is going to wallop many early adopters in the pocketbook a few years down the road when they wake up and realize that their "Shelbys" ain't fetching what the hype promised.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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Having been one who has,

Bought, sold, traded and given away cars for over 10 years, every thing from Shelbys (65-70), Prowlers, Ferrari, Porsche, etc.

This auto is not a BARGAIN, but it is a SHELBY, or so to some buyers.

The local Dealer here has SOLD the one that I described in the first post,

May the buyer find Peace of mind in his or her purchase.

They got what "THEY" wanted.

I did not want it.

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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by AFBLUE
Besides on here at TMS is there really a backlash. On the Shelby Autos forum it is rarely even mentioned by owners (maybe I missed these threads over there)
I just wanted to correct my earlier post above. Shelby GT problems are being discussed and addressed on the Shelby GT site. http://forum.shelbyautos.com/index.php?showtopic=763

I missed that thread earlier.
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 10:37 PM
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In that thread AmyB mentions on 28 Feb 07, that they have produced 900 Shelby GTs.

Assuming they started on 1 Jan 07, that works out to roughly 450 per month. I guess they will really pick up the pace in order to make 6000 by July.
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 07:47 PM
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Drove by my Dealer the other day and spotted a Black Shelby GT 5 speed. Asked my Salesman what my price would be. He just sent me an e-mail I can have it for 41,900 and they are interested in my 07 GT/CS.
I don't think so.
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 10:11 PM
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I stopped to look at a black 5-speed SGT the other day. I liked it. I told the dealer it wasn't worth the ADM ($49k total). He agreed. I told him it was barely worth sticker. He agreed. Then he told me how all of the local dealers had collaborated to "agree" on markup, just to be "fair", supposedly to the consumer, and I let him have it. (and keep it) Let the Shelby's sit... They'll be digging for buyers soon enough.
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 04:43 AM
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If I remember my anti-trust laws, then I believe what they are doing is illegal. It's called collusion.

http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/public/guidelines/211578.pdf

American consumers have the right to expect
the benefits of free and open competition — the
best goods and services at the lowest prices.
Public and private organizations often rely on a
competitive bidding process to achieve that end.
The competitive process only works, however,
when competitors set prices honestly and independently.
When competitors collude, prices are
inflated and the customer is cheated. Price fixing,
bid rigging, and other forms of collusion are illegal
and are subject to criminal prosecution by the
Antitrust Division of the United States Department
of Justice.
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 06:48 AM
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They are too busy right now firing federal prosecutors for no reason and covering their **** afterwards to take up something so frivalous and petty as this. Heck whats a little collusion amongst freinds??! Welcome to America. Land of the overcharged, home of the morons!
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 02:59 PM
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The difficulty with a collusion charge is proving that it's occuring.
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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gt500's are way cool.
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