jarradasay

Boy you really should do some research before you post. In my post above notice the sticker price of the vette. 44K Right in the middle of your 40-45K price. So if you are telling me that I can buy a GT500 with aluminum block and composite parts for 44K then sign me up. If you are for some reason referring to the Z06 then you are off your rocker because the GT500 can't come close on anything.

Inconsistancy... tisk tisk tisk. First you say the GT500 is 40-45K car not a 40-60K, but then you tell me I have to pay ADM that would drive the price up to the GT40 realm. Are you going or coming? Pick a team.

Point is The Vette uses all aluminum V8, composite panels for 44K and no ADM, so why doesnt the GT500. especially since the GT500 has the majority of it's chassis cost amaturized in the V6 and GT not a one model chassis.

jarradasay

Sorry, guys if my comments did not belong. I love the new mustang, I had high hopes for the GT500 and intended on buying one. I hope all my posts in here have not been misunderstood. There is a certain amount of blind loyalty that I lack. I enteded all my posts to be full of data that could help the situation. I dont want to come off as negative. Complacency begats nothing less then failure and to see so much mediocracy in the market now I was disappointed to see how the GT500 came out and intended to offer feasible solutions to the problem, even if ford isnt reading or listening.
Sorry if my posts offended you.

n3cr0mncr

Perhaps YOU should do some research before you post. The MSRP of a vette with nothing added to it is 44,995 for the coupe....if you want to call that below $45k...go ahead, but i don't know of many dealerships that will pass on the tax title and license...and, even in areas that give me a military discount on registration, it costs more than $5 to register a car. Plus, the convertable is almost $8k more. Start adding options and the Corvette is a $45-60k car before destination, tax, title, license or any of that other stuff.

The fact that I said that the Shelby will have an ADM is simply my admission that, regardless of the cost of this vehicle, people out there with too much money and too few brain cells would still pay a markup just so that they could own a Shelby before anyone else. A year from now, when the ADM goes away you will be able to buy a 500hp car with the Shelby label for under $45k or you will be able to buy a 400hp car that weighs less for under $55k (both of those numbers considering the addon of a few options, but not going all out). If you want to compare the prices in the same way that everyone has been comparing performance (i.e. GT500 vs. Z06) then we can go there later, but I think you get the point.

My point is....a GT500 will beat out a standard vette on a track with a $10k discount on sticker.

jarradasay

Have yet to see anyone compare the GT500 to the Z06. No comparison there. The Z06 runs away hands down. Base price of the vette is 44,170 tax title and license apply to any car that is why it is typically not figured in during comparisons. Have you ever see a vette with "nothing added"? There's not much to add.
I cant figure out your numbers. For accuracy sake we'll take base against base even though the base vette has many more options then the base GT500.

sticker against sticker
GT500
40930
0-60 =4.68
1/4 = 12.64
slalom = 96.3

Corvette
44170
4.71
12.84
99.31

Z06
69XXX
3.72
12.36
102.1

So the GT500 beats the standard Vette in a 1/4 mile drag race, losses in the slalom and gets obliterated in both by the Z06(and understandably so with nearly 30K price difference).
I have a hard time seeing what you are talking about in the statement "GT500 will beat out a standard vette on a track with a $10k discount on sticker". I see a $3240 sticker difference, the GT500 wins on the straight track, but not the curvies. Now factor in that I can walk in to a chevy dealership today and pick up a vette for sticker or pay 50-70K for the GT500 and what happens to the affordability of the GT500. Right now the better buy is the Vette. And that is what we are seeing. In a few years ... who knows??

245/45ZR-17

You hit the nail on the head there man.

I agree 100%

n3cr0mncr

The MSRP that I was using in my comparison is the MSRP listed on www.chevrolet.com/corvette, but maybe Chevy got their prices mixed up. With your numbers I see your point, however, by my numbers I see mine...And my numbers came from Chevy's and Ford's websites, so I think they are correct. Also, if you go to that website and "build your car" with a Corvette, you will see where my option prices come from. You will see that there are MANY options and that those options increase the price by up to 15k from MSRP.

jarradasay

44995 includes delivery, not quoted in either of my calculations.

drmustang

How would Ford drop the weight of the GT500? They charge as much as GM does for a Corvette. Why can't Ford use the lightweight materials that we see in the Corvette.

ChadIsHollywood

Agreed! But I still have to wonder to myself why they couldn't have used an aluminum block like on the stock GTs...That Iron block is killing me!

bob

You would have to rengineer the mustang from the ground up in order to affect those kinds of weight savings on the GT500 which of course would drive up the cost of the GT and base mustang (the latter which makes the GT and GT500 possible), then again the GT500 is purposely overbuilt. It can probably swallow another 100 horsepower reliably if Ford chose to do so, but the penalty is weight. On the other hand, you could reduce the power of the car and then go for featherweight components that would be unforgiving if people modifiy thier cars.