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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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Does it have or will it have the Sync system ? anyone
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 08:12 PM
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not been confirmed, will likely have it.
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 11:49 PM
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Does it have or will it have the Sync system ? anyone

It will have a different dash, so I think it might.
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 12:54 AM
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Hey, Topnotch, great avatar 'chop you've got.

Care to post it a little (actually, a lot!) bigger?
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony Alonso
The "hockey stick" line on the door looks the same to me as the current car. I am wondering if there would be engineering dollars spent on re-shaping a door panel, as I would think it would incur extra expense vs. just changing the panels that are strictly stamped pieces that attach to the chassis. Thoughts?
I don't believe the "hockey stick" line wil continue. It appears as though the "C" shaped line is returning, maybe similar to the SN95s. Door panel require die changes, as do all stamped parts, but since this is just the skin of the door, no structural engineering would be needed unless it is a government mandated update.
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jarradasay
I don't believe the "hockey stick" line wil continue. It appears as though the "C" shaped line is returning, maybe similar to the SN95s. Door panel require die changes, as do all stamped parts, but since this is just the skin of the door, no structural engineering would be needed unless it is a government mandated update.
If one looks at the shoulder line and the "hockey stick" line that parallels it, they appear to have a shape similar to the SN-95 C shape. The camo appears to conceal the details.

I would think that changes to the door skin that results in the internals being shifted would result in crash testing and therefore extra expense.

Of course, if it looks like the drawing that someone posted here awhile back, there might have been some changes done to the door.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Tony Alonso
If one looks at the shoulder line and the "hockey stick" line that parallels it, they appear to have a shape similar to the SN-95 C shape. The camo appears to conceal the details.

I would think that changes to the door skin that results in the internals being shifted would result in crash testing and therefore extra expense.

Of course, if it looks like the drawing that someone posted here awhile back, there might have been some changes done to the door.
Changes to the doorskin will not effect internals. It is just skin. If they are changing the front and rear quarters as it appears they are, they would most likely have to change the door.

I cannot see ford not changing the door skin, especially with the introduction of the "hip" in the rear qty. The body line will most probably have to change. This would require a change to the door's uppermost body line. So, to some degree we should see a door change.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 12:44 PM
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Didn't we hear that all the body panels would change except the greenhouse?
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by moonstang
Didn't we hear that all the body panels would change except the greenhouse?
Yes, but that was far enough back that things could easily have changed, and there's plenty of wiggle-room in the word "change" for it to be hard to forecast.
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by jarradasay
Changes to the doorskin will not effect internals. It is just skin. If they are changing the front and rear quarters as it appears they are, they would most likely have to change the door.
Sorry, my "wordage" was not too clear above. What I meant to say was "if" there was a change in the door shape that resulted a shifting of the internals, Ford would maybe choose to work with that as a hard point if they did not want to crash test that. Of course, they might have to crash test that regardless, if there were updates to the side intrusion standards from the government, as you mentioned previously.

Originally Posted by jarradasay
I cannot see ford not changing the door skin, especially with the introduction of the "hip" in the rear qty. The body line will most probably have to change. This would require a change to the door's uppermost body line. So, to some degree we should see a door change.
When that camo comes off, we'll know for sure.

Besides, my eyes play tricks on me once in awhile.
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 07:12 AM
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I'm not completely familiar with IRS, but have looked at tons of 03-04 cobra pics and have noticed that the tail pipes for the IRS go beneath the suspension. I would guess that this routing is fairly common? If so, I can't see any tailpipes that go below the axle/suspension to suggest that the car has IRS. Not to mention, the tips look like they're slightly angled towards the ground.
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Tony Alonso
Sorry, my "wordage" was not too clear above. What I meant to say was "if" there was a change in the door shape that resulted a shifting of the internals, Ford would maybe choose to work with that as a hard point if they did not want to crash test that. Of course, they might have to crash test that regardless, if there were updates to the side intrusion standards from the government, as you mentioned previously.



When that camo comes off, we'll know for sure.

Besides, my eyes play tricks on me once in awhile.
I see what youre saying now. At one point I thought it looked like the top edge of the door slanted downward toward the rear. If that is the case then there is a functional change, but I agree with you that ford would be wise to avoide that.
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 07:43 AM
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I think this is the first time we've seen fogs in the grille again - nice. Also seems the side scallops are slightly more pronounced and angled at the rear in front of the rear wheel opening.
Thats exactly what I was going to say. Honestly I don't want this one to be too cool because I won't be ready for one until 2011 at the earliest.
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 08:03 AM
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If I had to guess, I'd say it's a change to the LCAs to try to alleviate the wheel-hop issues. With IRS, you would have to route the exhaust under the differential because the suspension travel would crush it if you went above the axles.... just like SSilver was thinkin'.
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