Stock A6 5.0 - 12.73 @ 115
5/27/10 | 08:13 AM
#21
Mach 1 Member
Joined: April 22, 2010
Posts: 903
Likes: 0
1st 4.17
2nd 2.34
3rd 1.52
4th 1.14
5th 0.87
6th 0.69
Final drive 3.15:1
I'm also shocked by these claims. To basically take an automatic, leave traction control on, and turn in times pretty much at the same level as highly skilled drivers with a 3.73 axle manual is quite frankly insane. This should bare considerable scrutiny, even if it's found out to be true. I just have a hard time believing that the manual transmission version is having such a hard time keeping up with its automatic transmission counterpart, but this is the 21st century, so who knows?
5/27/10 | 08:16 AM
#22
Bullitt Member
Joined: September 9, 2009
Posts: 372
Likes: 0
From: Miami
In my experience drag racing over the past 30 years, steeper gearing will improve ET's, but often lower the trap speed a bit (not increase it). The 6 speed auto has an incredibly steep 1st gear, and 2nd and 3rd are steep, as well. Great for ET's, not so great for trap speeds. So, I have no trouble believing the 12.73 ET, it's just the trap speed that doesn't add up.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86021
5/27/10 | 08:16 AM
#23
Thread Starter
GT Member
Joined: April 29, 2010
Posts: 192
Likes: 0
From: Knoxville, TN
1st 4.17
2nd 2.34
3rd 1.52
4th 1.14
5th 0.87
6th 0.69
Final 3.15:1
MPH in the traps will depend a lot on what the rpm is going through the traps. Close to peak = higher mph. Well below, not so much.
For ET, you want to go through the traps well ABOVE peak HP, but with the stock rev limiter (and the 6500 rpm peak power), that isn't really possible. If it were, MPH will be down a bit vs going through near peak HP (but again, ET will be a bit better).
2nd 2.34
3rd 1.52
4th 1.14
5th 0.87
6th 0.69
Final 3.15:1
MPH in the traps will depend a lot on what the rpm is going through the traps. Close to peak = higher mph. Well below, not so much.
For ET, you want to go through the traps well ABOVE peak HP, but with the stock rev limiter (and the 6500 rpm peak power), that isn't really possible. If it were, MPH will be down a bit vs going through near peak HP (but again, ET will be a bit better).
5/27/10 | 08:20 AM
#25
Thread Starter
GT Member
Joined: April 29, 2010
Posts: 192
Likes: 0
From: Knoxville, TN
[...I'm also shocked by these claims. To basically take an automatic, leave traction control on, and turn in times pretty much at the same level as highly skilled drivers with a 3.73 axle manual is quite frankly insane. This should bare considerable scrutiny, even if it's found out to be true. I just have a hard time believing that the manual transmission version is having such a hard time keeping up with its automatic transmission counterpart, but this is the 21st century, so who knows?
I have come around to Gene K's way of thinking....it is the 3.55 cars that I think will show the best ETs, and probably the best MPH too.
In bone stock trim, of course. Once the modding starts, all bets are off.
5/27/10 | 08:22 AM
#27
Bullitt Member
Joined: January 24, 2010
Posts: 313
Likes: 0
From: fredneck county, MD
i won't say it didn't happen but keep in mind that a corvette that has
a. 436hp and 428 lb-ft tq
b. wider, better tires
c. weighs 300lbs less
traps 115-117mph as reported by the same mags that have run times with the new 5.0 that are consistent with privately owned cars
just doesn't add up
a. 436hp and 428 lb-ft tq
b. wider, better tires
c. weighs 300lbs less
traps 115-117mph as reported by the same mags that have run times with the new 5.0 that are consistent with privately owned cars
just doesn't add up
5/27/10 | 08:30 AM
#29
Shelby GT350 Member
Joined: May 18, 2010
Posts: 2,310
Likes: 14
From: CT
i won't say it didn't happen but keep in mind that a corvette that has
a. 436hp and 428 lb-ft tq
b. wider, better tires
c. weighs 300lbs less
traps 115-117mph as reported by the same mags that have run times with the new 5.0 that are consistent with privately owned cars
just doesn't add up
a. 436hp and 428 lb-ft tq
b. wider, better tires
c. weighs 300lbs less
traps 115-117mph as reported by the same mags that have run times with the new 5.0 that are consistent with privately owned cars
just doesn't add up
When you put it that way...
5/27/10 | 08:46 AM
#33
GT Member
Joined: May 7, 2010
Posts: 160
Likes: 0
"Customers choosing the automatic will be pleasantly surprised to find the advanced six-speed transmission does not sacrifice fuel economy or performance – delivering crisp, quick shifts."
http://media.ford.com/article_displa...ticle_id=32280
Maybe we will be "pleasantly surprised" as Ford says. My 2011 Mustang GT has the 6-speed auto and, although I haven't timed it, it feels extremely quick.
http://media.ford.com/article_displa...ticle_id=32280
Maybe we will be "pleasantly surprised" as Ford says. My 2011 Mustang GT has the 6-speed auto and, although I haven't timed it, it feels extremely quick.
5/27/10 | 08:47 AM
#35
Mach 1 Member
Joined: March 25, 2010
Posts: 840
Likes: 0
From: Dallas, TX
If it had the stock 235 50 18 tires, it's still in third gear at 115 MPH. Third redlines with this combo at around 119 MPH. Probably why it was so quick considering the steepness of 1st thru 3rd.
Last edited by fritzOSU03; 5/27/10 at 08:53 AM.
5/27/10 | 08:59 AM
#38
GT Member
Joined: May 7, 2010
Posts: 160
Likes: 0
5/27/10 | 09:03 AM
#39
Mach 1 Member
Joined: December 24, 2007
Posts: 563
Likes: 0
5.0 A6 is indeed 3.15 only.
Anyone know if the new A6 locks the converter in 4th at full throttle?
Also might be nice to know the density altitude although mid-70's pretty much precludes 1200 foot below.
Bob, if it was a couple of decades ago I would swear that track had the "old" speed traps.
Before the traps were moved to try and keep the Fuelers below 300 mph.
Surely their are not any unsanctioned tracks still using the old speed traps?
PS I wonder if "Traction Control On" means in Regular or Sport Mode?
Anyone know if the new A6 locks the converter in 4th at full throttle?
Also might be nice to know the density altitude although mid-70's pretty much precludes 1200 foot below.
Bob, if it was a couple of decades ago I would swear that track had the "old" speed traps.
Before the traps were moved to try and keep the Fuelers below 300 mph.
Surely their are not any unsanctioned tracks still using the old speed traps?
PS I wonder if "Traction Control On" means in Regular or Sport Mode?
Last edited by Gene K; 5/27/10 at 09:07 AM.
5/27/10 | 09:21 AM
#40
GTR Member
Joined: February 18, 2010
Posts: 4,990
Likes: 1
From: S.E. Texas
This result really doesn't surprise me at all. Considering the gearing at work here and the advanced electronic control of the transmission the automatic cars should be fast.
I will be looking forward to seeing what one will do with the kind of suspension mods that the evo car is running and with some really sticky tires.
In that form, I don't see 12.20's or better being out of the question with no other mods.
I will be looking forward to seeing what one will do with the kind of suspension mods that the evo car is running and with some really sticky tires.
In that form, I don't see 12.20's or better being out of the question with no other mods.