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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 07:45 AM
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Sorry to say but those things are just not going to be enough to compete with 425hp. Not even close!
I'm sure ford is going to do something to combat the 400+hp offerings from dodge and GM.
We'll just have to wait and see.
It's actually a really good time for us- we are going to be able to have a good deal of high hp cars to choose from.
The thing is for what these cars cost if you put the same amount of money in your Stang you should have no problem. For 6-7K you can put on a Turbo or Supercharger be close to 500HP and still only have totaled 35K. You know the SS will be close to 40K and the SRT8 is over 40K (heard some are paying 60+K).
The thing is once these guys start modding these cars but still you have to have the money.
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 08:29 AM
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Yes, we will have to wait & see what the 375hp Challenger RT & 400hp Camaro do at the track.
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Whammer
Sorry to say but those things are just not going to be enough to compete with 425hp. Not even close!
Depends on what he can run with it.
Those Challengers aren't light. So while it can't compete with the HP, it can on the 'best use of power' category.

The couple of track times so far posted have been around the 13.4 to 13.6 range.
Hard to launch a 4000+lb car with open diff and 425hp on small tires.
The car needs a T6060 badly with better tires and LSDiff....and some Jenny Craig thrown in for good measure.
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 09:06 AM
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I think it was the Motor Trend issue - Challenger SRT8 vs Shelby GT500. The SRT8 ran a 13.1 1/4 mile.
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 09:51 AM
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Yeah @ 108mph

People will figure out how to launch these pigs (just like the GT500, which in the same test did 12.6 @ 114 )

Figured the guy at the track probably just mashed the gas.
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 07:44 AM
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When you see the Challenger vs. Bullitt video you can see the Bullitt launches much better than the Challenger. It gets a pretty good headstart. But after that I think the Bullitt is just looking at tailights. Still the Bullitt isn't that outclassed considering the differences in HP.
But that Challenger is also an automatic, I think when the 6 speed it's the street you're going to see those cars launching better.

But like I said- it's a good time for us. We'll all have lots of cars to choose from. I've got an 08 Bullitt, but I'm not adverse to getting rid of it and getting a Challenger RT or a Boss stang- if the performance is there.
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 09:08 AM
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Just got back from my Dodge dealer. They have an SRT8 in the showroom and another on the way. They are getting 2 of the 500 that Canada is getting. They are only asking sticker for it- 51kCAN. They have 2 buyers for it at this time- they are going to have a draw for who will get it.

The car looks amazing! It's big, but not as big as people are stang forums have been saying.
The salesman told me there is a mod kit out for it already that will mod it out to over 600hp!!!
If you're in a mustang GT- don't even try to race these bad boys, you'll only look really foolish.

I think it's a huge mistake for the 08 SRT to just have the auto-stick. Rear gears are 3.06.
All that will be corrected with the 09's however.
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 09:40 AM
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I see this on Stangnet.com

Just recently, we told you about the 2010 Boss Ford Mustang and its prospective powerplant loss. With a little more sleuthing & research, we have found some other quotes and commentary from Mark Fields that shine a little more light on the future of the Boss Mustang. We do believe, according to our findings, that there will be a 2010 Boss Ford Mustang and it will be powered by the mystical 5.0L modular motor.

Then I see this
http://www.stangnet.com/2010-Ford-Mu...ed-080623.html

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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Redbaron93
I see this on Stangnet.com

Just recently, we told you about the 2010 Boss Ford Mustang and its prospective powerplant loss. With a little more sleuthing & research, we have found some other quotes and commentary from Mark Fields that shine a little more light on the future of the Boss Mustang. We do believe, according to our findings, that there will be a 2010 Boss Ford Mustang and it will be powered by the mystical 5.0L modular motor.

Then I see this
http://www.stangnet.com/2010-Ford-Mu...ed-080623.html

Well only the top execs at Ford really know what will be hitting the showrooms. But one thing is for certain with high HP offerings from GM and Dodge being readily available, Ford cannot afford to just offer a 300hp GT model. They need to step up to the plate and hit one outta the park!
So I'm sure we'll see something that can compete with the other automakers.
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Redbaron93
I see this on Stangnet.com

Just recently, we told you about the 2010 Boss Ford Mustang and its prospective powerplant loss. With a little more sleuthing & research, we have found some other quotes and commentary from Mark Fields that shine a little more light on the future of the Boss Mustang. We do believe, according to our findings, that there will be a 2010 Boss Ford Mustang and it will be powered by the mystical 5.0L modular motor.

Then I see this
http://www.stangnet.com/2010-Ford-Mu...ed-080623.html
That think looks terrible. And we already know that the front turn signals are inboard. Plus that lower grill opening makes it look like the thing is smiling. Just doesn't fit the character of the Boss Mustang. It should look powerful and intimidating.
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by AWmustang
That think looks terrible. And we already know that the front turn signals are inboard. Plus that lower grill opening makes it look like the thing is smiling. Just doesn't fit the character of the Boss Mustang. It should look powerful and intimidating.
That's not the new BOSS or the 2010 Mustang, that's a concept from a few years ago.
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 03:26 PM
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The guys over on Stangnet have vivid imaginations. If you want to be as up to date as possible on the 2010+ Mustang you need go no further than Boomer's thread on the issue stickied in this forum. I have spent a good bit of time looking at what the most credible sources have to say on the issue and, because of this, I can tell you that Boomer has done exactly the same thing....the info in his thread is as accurate and reliable as you will find right now.

Still, I'll go ahead and set the record straight regarding the issues Stangnet touched. First, the 6.2L Boss/Hurricane V8 was given a no go for Mustang duty a long time ago now, and the decision not to put that engine in the F150 had no direct effect on the Mustang's future. As for a potential Boss Mustang, while it has not been confirmed reliable sources have hinted that the 5.0L DOHC V8 may wear the Boss name instead of, or possible along with, the upcoming 6.2L V8. A 400+hp 5.0L DOHC PFI V8 will reside under the hood of the 2011 Mustang GT. A 2010 model year debut under the hood of a SE for that same 5.0L has been hinted at, but info supporting the same is extraordinarily sketchy at the moment.
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 12:01 PM
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I have a feeling that the Mustang won't be the quickest car of the bunch. I understand that Dodge and GM have heavier cars but we also know that they already have confirmed what there engines are capable of. Like most of you I have been salivating at the thought of a 5.0 with 400+ HP but we still haven't seen any concrete info from Ford. Second, just because a car is heavier doesn't mean it will automatically be slower, a perfect example is how the Nissan GTR at 4000lbs out guns the Z06 and Porsche 911.

I'm not trying to be negative but I feel Ford's strategy is going to be to give the best overall package at a price that undercuts the competition (remember the 4th gen F-body/ Mustang wars). Though the Z28/ SS models for the most part outperformed the Mustang GT, Cobra it was much more expensive and offered less standard features. I think Ford is waiting to see the true price/ performance of the next Camaro and Chellenger lineups and Ford will adjust pricing, performance and even fuel economy to undercut them. As much as i'd love to see the Mustang reign supreme in the modern Muscle car kingdom I have a feeling that a Camaro sporting a blown ZR1 sourced motor will stomp the SRT8 and GT500. Just my .02
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 03:31 PM
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Actually the last Z-28 Camaro's, were priced around the same as the 2002-03 Mustang GT.

However the base V-6 and convertible models, were significantly higher than their Mustang counterparts.
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 97GT03SVT
a perfect example is how the Nissan GTR at 4000lbs out guns the Z06 and Porsche 911.
Bad example
That car has more electronic 'enhancements' than you can imagine.

I'd really love to see the car have ALL that junk turned off and have the same expert driver take it for a spin.
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
Bad example
That car has more electronic 'enhancements' than you can imagine.

I'd really love to see the car have ALL that junk turned off and have the same expert driver take it for a spin.
I have to disagree, the "electronic enhancements" are part of what makes this car. I am by no means a Nissan fan but credit should be given for what the GTR is capable of. Keep in mind it is priced in the same range as the GT500KR and it would spank it in almost every aspect. The argument you have is similar to the LS1 guys complaining that the 03-04 and 07-09 GT500, Cobra didn't have a supercharger that their SS would stomp it. I just look at the results.
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 97GT03SVT
I have to disagree, the "electronic enhancements" are part of what makes this car. I am by no means a Nissan fan but credit should be given for what the GTR is capable of. Keep in mind it is priced in the same range as the GT500KR and it would spank it in almost every aspect. The argument you have is similar to the LS1 guys complaining that the 03-04 and 07-09 GT500, Cobra didn't have a supercharger that their SS would stomp it. I just look at the results.
Big difference in Power of an engine ... to how a computer puts it to the ground and controlls aspects of the car that you cannot even control physically yourself.
Its not the same at ALL.

I don't dislike the car at all... it's a technical marvel, but no human would be able to duplicate what it can do with its electronics.
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 08:56 PM
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Ok, well it is rated at 480HP but like many cars is actually underrated. Many reports say it has closer to 524-to 550HP which is very impressive for a twin turbo V6...Hope Ford pushes on with the Twin turbo idea.
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Whammer
Well only the top execs at Ford really know what will be hitting the showrooms. But one thing is for certain with high HP offerings from GM and Dodge being readily available, Ford cannot afford to just offer a 300hp GT model. They need to step up to the plate and hit one outta the park!
So I'm sure we'll see something that can compete with the other automakers.
I am so sick and tired of Ford's nonsense of saving performance engines exclusively for trucks (or Shelby). I am just flat tired of this mess. Ford doesn't really build trucks any better than anyone else does anyway.

I was leaning towards a new Ranger. Now I don't think I'll give Ford my money for that neither.

Not only have they NOT sold me a new Mustang (due to the fiasco with the latest BULLITT) they are NOT going to sell me a new truck neither. They've now lost TWO NEW SALES.

I refuse to let a company profit off of me when they continue to make ignorant decisions.

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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 97GT03SVT
I have a feeling that the Mustang won't be the quickest car of the bunch. I understand that Dodge and GM have heavier cars but we also know that they already have confirmed what there engines are capable of. Like most of you I have been salivating at the thought of a 5.0 with 400+ HP but we still haven't seen any concrete info from Ford. Second, just because a car is heavier doesn't mean it will automatically be slower, a perfect example is how the Nissan GTR at 4000lbs out guns the Z06 and Porsche 911.

I'm not trying to be negative but I feel Ford's strategy is going to be to give the best overall package at a price that undercuts the competition (remember the 4th gen F-body/ Mustang wars). Though the Z28/ SS models for the most part outperformed the Mustang GT, Cobra it was much more expensive and offered less standard features. I think Ford is waiting to see the true price/ performance of the next Camaro and Chellenger lineups and Ford will adjust pricing, performance and even fuel economy to undercut them. As much as i'd love to see the Mustang reign supreme in the modern Muscle car kingdom I have a feeling that a Camaro sporting a blown ZR1 sourced motor will stomp the SRT8 and GT500. Just my .02
My feelings coincide with this 100%. I always hope to see the Mustang come out on top. I am realizing that I have been doing that since the end of 1971. How much longer I can go I don't know.

I hate to agree with this one, but I honestly think it's the absolute truth ... (BUMMER).
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