2010-2014 Mustang Information on The S197 {GenII}

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Old Dec 17, 2013 | 09:16 PM
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There is always going to be changes made and continuous progress. Since the 2015 will have an updated 5.0L and a new engine, I don't think the same level of caution applies, unless you want big power like the current GT500.
But the 2015 Gt is not getting 100 hp more added like the 11 Gt over the 10 GT. The 2015 Gt will be getting like 430 hp which is only a 10 hp jump. Not the 100 hp like the 11's. I would feel big time shorted if I bought a 10 GT because they were around the same price as a 11 Gt and 100 more hp and way more torque.
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Old Dec 17, 2013 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 2011 Kona Blue
But the 2015 Gt is not getting 100 hp more added like the 11 Gt over the 10 GT. The 2015 Gt will be getting like 430 hp which is only a 10 hp jump. Not the 100 hp like the 11's. I would feel big time shorted if I bought a 10 GT because they were around the same price as a 11 Gt and 100 more hp and way more torque.
I bought the 2010 GT full well knowing there was a 5.0L engine coming. For a daily driver, I am very happy with the choice. Torque and sound are nice.

And yes, since there will be a much smaller increase in the expected output, I certainly don't feel bad about ordering a 2015 GT, thinking that I will be horribly shorted in 2 years. The current power level is plenty stout for a daily driver
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Old Dec 18, 2013 | 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Tony Alonso

I bought the 2010 GT full well knowing there was a 5.0L engine coming. For a daily driver, I am very happy with the choice. Torque and sound are nice.

And yes, since there will be a much smaller increase in the expected output, I certainly don't feel bad about ordering a 2015 GT, thinking that I will be horribly shorted in 2 years. The current power level is plenty stout for a daily driver
Well, your darn right on that. 420 hp is certainily plenty for a daily driver . Lol
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Old Dec 18, 2013 | 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Black&Blue
You don't need to buy a new Mustang every 2-3 years to keep up with the new engines/transmissions. You just need to buy any year from 2011 to 2014 and you're set.
Rushing out to buy the 11 was just as problematic as any other 1st year. Hence you got the weak pistons with the #8 failures, the defective transmission pieces, and the clutch issues, on the 11 and 12 before the errors were discovered and the modifications were in place. And the 13, 14 are still having the 'tick' issue which is fairly widespread.

So there are many that wanted the '10 for the new (fugly diaper) body style with the reliability of the well proven 4.6L 3V.
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Old Dec 18, 2013 | 05:41 AM
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IMO the 3 valve 4.6 is the best sounding Mustang. Ford should have went with 6 speed transmissions in the late 90's.

I loved the new body for 2010. Started looking at GT's, started hearing about the new engines and 6 speed transmissions for 2011. The rest is history......
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Old Dec 18, 2013 | 06:19 AM
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I test drove a new '13 5.0 at the time I bought my '10. I really did not notice in everyday driving the power difference. Well, not enough to pay double what I did for my '10 to have it. The '13 I drove was nearly $38k and my slightly used '10 with the same options was $19. Like my screen name says Speed Costs Money and the Mustang I bought was all the fast I could afford.
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Old Dec 18, 2013 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 2011 Kona Blue
But the 2015 Gt is not getting 100 hp more added like the 11 Gt over the 10 GT. The 2015 Gt will be getting like 430 hp which is only a 10 hp jump. Not the 100 hp like the 11's. I would feel big time shorted if I bought a 10 GT because they were around the same price as a 11 Gt and 100 more hp and way more torque.

You can't compare the two. AT ALL.


Buying a 2010 Mustang was buying the same old Mustang with a body and interior update. That was all. Underneath the skin it was exactly the same car as the 2009.

The 2011 and above had new engines and transmissions, and the suspensions been upgraded so the old GT suspension can now be found on V6s, but other than the engine and transmission, it's still the 2005 chassis with the 2010 body and interior update.


The 2015 is a NEW car. New lighter chassis, new front suspension and new independent rear suspension, new interior, new body, it's been changed from front to rear. The only thing that's carried over from the 2014 is the engine block, however, the the engine internals have been updated to Boss-grade parts.

The switch to a 2015 isn't just horsepower like the 2010 to 2011 was. The 2015 gives you a lighter, better handling, and all around faster car while also giving you updated looks and a much more comfortable ride.


Oh, and because it is lighter and much more aerodynamic, it's almost certainly going to get better gas mileage too. It wouldn't surprise me a bit to see the 5.0 rated at 28-30 mpg on the highway and V6s closing in on 35 mpg.
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Old Dec 18, 2013 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Moustang
Buying a 2010 Mustang was buying the same old Mustang with a body and interior update. That was all. Underneath the skin it was exactly the same car as the 2009.
The suspension was revised for the GT models as compared to the 2009 versions. Also, there was a "track pack" option that was tuned even further for the 2010s.
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Old Dec 18, 2013 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Tony Alonso
The suspension was revised for the GT models as compared to the 2009 versions. Also, there was a "track pack" option that was tuned even further for the 2010s.

Wow, slightly different shocks and springs. A couple of hundred dollars in aftermarket parts and your 2009 suspension is identical to the 2010. Hardly a ground breaking update.

How much would it cost you to change your 2014 suspension into a 2015? About the price of a new car?
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Old Dec 18, 2013 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Moustang
Wow, slightly different shocks and springs. A couple of hundred dollars in aftermarket parts and your 2009 suspension is identical to the 2010. Hardly a ground breaking update.
Your statement above said the 2009 and 2010 was the same underneath. I was pointing out there was a difference because of a change in the tuning, resulting in those different parts. And yes, it produced a noticeable difference for me between my 2007 and 2010. Those changes, along with the steering gear update, produced a more confident feel in spirited street driving. I am certainly aware the aftermarket exists for those who want a more dramatic handling update on the S197 chassis. Depending on someone's goals (ride height lowering, axle hop management, less body lean), I suppose whether or not you consider it a change depends on how you evaluate the magnitude of what was different.
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Old Dec 18, 2013 | 10:27 AM
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Any more of you got picks of your 2010's? I want to get back to giving props to who chose to buy a the weird year of the Mustang.

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Old Dec 18, 2013 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Tony Alonso
Your statement above said the 2009 and 2010 was the same underneath.
Does it?

Try quoting those exact words. I don't believe my statement above said anything like that. Quite the opposite, I believe the precise words that I used said:

The 2011 and above had new engines and transmissions, and the suspensions been upgraded so the old GT suspension can now be found on V6s, but other than the engine and transmission, it's still the 2005 chassis with the 2010 body and interior update.

Funny, I see where I said the suspensions had been upgraded. And notice I said SUSPENSIONS, which would indicate a change on more than one model.



So, it appears you are trying to debate against something you just made up in your own head. In that case, I'll leave you to debate with yourself. It's sure to be far more interesting than debating with me when my response is just going to be "yes, I already said that".
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Old Dec 18, 2013 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Moustang
So, it appears you are trying to debate against something you just made up in your own head. In that case, I'll leave you to debate with yourself. It's sure to be far more interesting than debating with me when my response is just going to be "yes, I already said that".
Obviously we are misunderstanding each other. I was making a response to this statement -

"Buying a 2010 Mustang was buying the same old Mustang with a body and interior update. That was all. Underneath the skin it was exactly the same car as the 2009."

I apologize if you think I am trying to "debate". I was merely discussing a point regarding a difference in one model's suspension tuning. Re-reading the next statements, I see I misunderstood your point.

To the OP, sorry to have gotten the thread off track. Here are some other photos of my 2010 GT, with the old tech solid rear axle suspension and old engine, which I still love!
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Old Dec 18, 2013 | 12:03 PM
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Man, are the those the original wheels painted? They look great!!!
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Old Dec 18, 2013 | 12:10 PM
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Man, are the those the original wheels painted? They look great!!!
I got a second set of the optional 19" premium wheels and had them painted. I like the way it came out and contrasts with the grey. I didn't start out a black wheel fan, but after seeing these, I became one!
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Old Dec 18, 2013 | 12:27 PM
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I was thinking of having my mine redone in black chrome. Not sure how much it will cost to do that though.
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Old Dec 18, 2013 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SpeedCostsMoney
I was thinking of having my mine redone in black chrome. Not sure how much it will cost to do that though.
I looked into this same thing, however, it is very difficult to do (this was shared with me from several shops). I was also told the maintenance is challenging.

I think it would look awesome though!
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Old Dec 21, 2013 | 09:27 AM
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I loved my 2010 V6, even though it made (what felt like) 13rwhp.
But she sure did look nice going so slow.



Regardless, upgraded to a 2014GT and am soo **** happy with it.
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Old Dec 21, 2013 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeedCostsMoney
Man, are the those the original wheels painted? They look great!!!
Agreed. Looking sharp Tony.
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Old Dec 21, 2013 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Toxix
I loved my 2010 V6, even though it made (what felt like) 13rwhp. But she sure did look nice going so slow. Regardless, upgraded to a 2014GT and am soo **** happy with it.
Man, I thought your old car was a 12?
I bet it feels like your driving a space ship now.
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