So are you guys paying MSRP for the 2011...?
5/27/10, 05:06 PM
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Kona Blue with Saddle Leather will look sharp and you can see pics of that combination in the color section here in these forums.
On a side note, that little red '92 Miata with the Eaton supercharger we had ended up selling today right after you & I were looking it over. The guy with the other red Miata we saw there bought it.
Your '11 GT should be our next GT to be scheduled. I prioritized it to be next for our dealership. If I had to guess, I think it'll be built in late June as long as there are no commodities restrictions.
Again, thanks for the business. Can't wait to see our '11's start arriving.....
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No problem... I'll buy you both dinner when it gets in. So get it in quick.. my wife wants to drive it (as well as me)!!! :-) I'm giving Randy a strut brace from my 328i.. it should fit his car nicely... I can't use it because this particular type interfers with my camber and strut rebound adjustment at the track.
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5/28/10, 12:56 AM
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Is it possible to explain the meaning using conventional mathematics terminology?
For example, when a vehicle is purchased at invoice price, the dealer still makes a profit because of the holdback, paid to the dealer.
So what does, "I got invoice + holdback" mean? You paid invoice AND were paid the dealer holdback, resulting in no profit to the dealer?
My guess is your statement means something different to you, I'm trying to discern that meaning.
5/28/10, 08:35 AM
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Speaking of X-Plan pricing. Must say X-Plan pricing is (invoice+holdback) + $200 or $250 But That is not what I'm seeing, at least not through my company's plan. For example X-Plan pricing for a V6 Premium+Pony Package is $25,532 (not including destination). Yet the invoice+holdback price for the same car is $24831 (again not including destination) according to the price guide. That is a difference of $700 not $200. What am I missing? Are there other fees including in the X-Plan pricing?
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Speaking of X-Plan pricing. Must say X-Plan pricing is (invoice+holdback) + $200 or $250 But That is not what I'm seeing, at least not through my company's plan. For example X-Plan pricing for a V6 Premium+Pony Package is $25,532 (not including destination). Yet the invoice+holdback price for the same car is $24831 (again not including destination) according to the price guide. That is a difference of $700 not $200. What am I missing? Are there other fees including in the X-Plan pricing?
The X Plan price for the 11 GT with 401A is $31,287
The Price list shows invoice w/ holdback for 401A at $30,609
The only thing I can think of is if they're including the $500 rebate that Ford is currently doing
5/28/10, 08:47 AM
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Speaking of X-Plan pricing. Must say X-Plan pricing is (invoice+holdback) + $200 or $250 But That is not what I'm seeing, at least not through my company's plan. For example X-Plan pricing for a V6 Premium+Pony Package is $25,532 (not including destination). Yet the invoice+holdback price for the same car is $24831 (again not including destination) according to the price guide. That is a difference of $700 not $200. What am I missing? Are there other fees including in the X-Plan pricing?
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5/28/10, 09:27 AM
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Yes, I am familiar w/ the sticker pricing / invoice pricing, thank you.
Is it possible to explain the meaning using conventional mathematics terminology?
For example, when a vehicle is purchased at invoice price, the dealer still makes a profit because of the holdback, paid to the dealer.
So what does, "I got invoice + holdback" mean? You paid invoice AND were paid the dealer holdback, resulting in no profit to the dealer?
My guess is your statement means something different to you, I'm trying to discern that meaning.
Is it possible to explain the meaning using conventional mathematics terminology?
For example, when a vehicle is purchased at invoice price, the dealer still makes a profit because of the holdback, paid to the dealer.
So what does, "I got invoice + holdback" mean? You paid invoice AND were paid the dealer holdback, resulting in no profit to the dealer?
My guess is your statement means something different to you, I'm trying to discern that meaning.
In other words I paid the invoice price including the holdback cost
5/28/10, 05:22 PM
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Speaking of X-Plan pricing. Must say X-Plan pricing is (invoice+holdback) + $200 or $250 But That is not what I'm seeing, at least not through my company's plan. For example X-Plan pricing for a V6 Premium+Pony Package is $25,532 (not including destination). Yet the invoice+holdback price for the same car is $24831 (again not including destination) according to the price guide. That is a difference of $700 not $200. What am I missing? Are there other fees including in the X-Plan pricing?
5/28/10, 05:33 PM
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I figured out. It seems that the X-Plan price does includes Ford's FDAF/Fuel charge which is not included in the invoice price. I was able to confirm this after going to a dealer and getting an estimate comparing MSRP, Invoice+holdback and X-Plan prices. So X-Plan = (Invoice+holdback) + $500 (FDAF/Fuel fee) + 200. In my case after adding all the options the price was little bit less than it would've been using that formula. Add the $75 dollar restriction for documentation fee plus and X-Plan is definitely a very good deal especially for someone like me that sucks at negotiating
Exactly!
5/28/10, 05:34 PM
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I figured out. It seems that the X-Plan price does includes Ford's FDAF/Fuel charge which is not included in the invoice price. I was able to confirm this after going to a dealer and getting an estimate comparing MSRP, Invoice+holdback and X-Plan prices. So X-Plan = (Invoice+holdback) + $500 (FDAF/Fuel fee) + 200. In my case after adding all the options the price was little bit less than it would've been using that formula. Add the $75 dollar restriction for documentation fee plus and X-Plan is definitely a very good deal especially for someone like me that sucks at negotiating
Exactly.I got X-plan just as a back up in case the dealer tries to screw me over