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4/5/13, 07:26 PM
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4/5/13, 07:38 PM
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Its a finesse shifter - not unlike the later 3650's. Quit using your meat hooks trying to force it like a 60's hurst or an old pickup.
4/5/13, 07:57 PM
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The problem is, i'm not, and i don't see it getting any better. Call it what you want, but if Ford put out a transmission that is not intuitive to the average or above average driver then they did something wrong. I don't manhandle it by any means, and it still will grind/lock out from 3rd on occasion.
That or they are very inconsistent with quality on the MT82 and some people just don't have any issues and can't understand why others do.
4/5/13, 08:10 PM
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I don't get why people keep saying it is the drivers fault. If so many people are making comments and complaining, then something is not right. I have by no means been driving a manual all my life, but i think after driving manual Jeeps hardcore off-road, and a small turbo German "sports" cart with 0 issues, i would think i could at least adapt some after 2k miles.
The problem is, i'm not, and i don't see it getting any better. Call it what you want, but if Ford put out a transmission that is not intuitive to the average or above average driver then they did something wrong. I don't manhandle it by any means, and it still will grind/lock out from 3rd on occasion.
That or they are very inconsistent with quality on the MT82 and some people just don't have any issues and can't understand why others do.
The problem is, i'm not, and i don't see it getting any better. Call it what you want, but if Ford put out a transmission that is not intuitive to the average or above average driver then they did something wrong. I don't manhandle it by any means, and it still will grind/lock out from 3rd on occasion.
That or they are very inconsistent with quality on the MT82 and some people just don't have any issues and can't understand why others do.
4/5/13, 08:21 PM
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I don't get why people keep saying it is the drivers fault. If so many people are making comments and complaining, then something is not right. I have by no means been driving a manual all my life, but i think after driving manual Jeeps hardcore off-road, and a small turbo German "sports" cart with 0 issues, i would think i could at least adapt some after 2k miles.
The problem is, i'm not, and i don't see it getting any better. Call it what you want, but if Ford put out a transmission that is not intuitive to the average or above average driver then they did something wrong. I don't manhandle it by any means, and it still will grind/lock out from 3rd on occasion.
That or they are very inconsistent with quality on the MT82 and some people just don't have any issues and can't understand why others do.
The problem is, i'm not, and i don't see it getting any better. Call it what you want, but if Ford put out a transmission that is not intuitive to the average or above average driver then they did something wrong. I don't manhandle it by any means, and it still will grind/lock out from 3rd on occasion.
That or they are very inconsistent with quality on the MT82 and some people just don't have any issues and can't understand why others do.
I had to learn how to use my 2012 5.0.. I am sure the jeep and the little german car worked and felt alittle different.... people keep saying its the driver because it is the driver. makes sense right?
4/5/13, 08:24 PM
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Not really. Not much complication to letting the shifter center itself then pushing straight up only to hit a wall. Not sure how driver experience can get around that.
4/5/13, 08:27 PM
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its something you just learn to drive.. you have never driven a old sport car.. cant believe people are crying over these nice easy to drive mt82's..
4/5/13, 08:30 PM
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4/5/13, 09:02 PM
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Myself, I have easily 200,000 plus miles driving 5 speeds. This is my first 6-speed. I picked it up on my way to work yesterday, and have put not quite 200 more miles on it. My feeling so far, is that shifting it takes more technique than any 5-speed that I have owned. The downshift from 6 to 5 must be made with a deliberate pressure to the right, or it will turn into a 6 to 3 shift every time. I feel that it was probably intended to be that way, so you can go from idling along in 6th, to making lots of power in third in the blink of an eye. I have no doubt that the shifter could be improved, but, so far, I feel that mine works fine but will just take a bit of practice to become second nature. Right now, it just requires a little thought on my part.
4/5/13, 09:11 PM
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Anybody that complains about the shift action of the MT-82 never drove a '96-'04 Mustang with the terrible angled shifter. This thing is worlds better. Get over it or buy a MGW shifter.
4/5/13, 09:51 PM
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get over it people. nearly 10k on my '13 and I didn't like it the first week. I was also coming from a Tremec T-56'd LS2 GTO with a GM Motorsports Street shifter with Lou's Short stick shift arm and a hurst ball. Yeah, it shifts totally different. I'm over it now, and don't mind the stock shifter. Sure I *might* change eventually, but for now, it's fine.
4/5/13, 09:57 PM
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get over it people. nearly 10k on my '13 and I didn't like it the first week. I was also coming from a Tremec T-56'd LS2 GTO with a GM Motorsports Street shifter with Lou's Short stick shift arm and a hurst ball. Yeah, it shifts totally different. I'm over it now, and don't mind the stock shifter. Sure I *might* change eventually, but for now, it's fine.
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4/5/13, 10:07 PM
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No, I don't mind the stock shifter, because my car is a daily driven car that doesn't and won't be raced at the strip, the street, or anywhere else. nearly 10k on it and I have yet to do a burnout.
When I bought my 2005 GTO, I thought I cared, I raced it all over, street, strip, highway, mexico, underwater, in space, everywhere. A shifter was one of the first mods! By the time it had 15k on it, it had already been through three (YES THREE) sets of rear tires. It also had an aftermarket cam, valvesprings, retainers, a beefed up lower end, long tube headers, full catback, HIDs, different taillights, different spoiler, a loud stereo, window tint, etc etc etc etc. the list goes on forever.
I really don't feel like the Mustang *needs* it. I might get around to it eventually, but it's not impeding anything, and is worlds better than what was stock in any prior car I've had. I'm not out to change things for the sake of changing them. I had *goals* with the car, and I think I've met all of them.
All I have left is a want for window tint, the drivers side fender fixed and repainted, new dampers, and a speaker upgrade for the doors.
I kinda want offroad pipes to be cat free, because I want more volume, but I don't want to deal with the stupid inspection laws on the east coast. I might consider changing the axlebacks instead.
beyond that, this car is truly done. Might not be much to you, but I've already got easily 3k in mods sunk into it, just to make it be like what I sort of envisioned as my *Dream Mustang*. I've achieved that, right down to the wheels.
When I bought my 2005 GTO, I thought I cared, I raced it all over, street, strip, highway, mexico, underwater, in space, everywhere. A shifter was one of the first mods! By the time it had 15k on it, it had already been through three (YES THREE) sets of rear tires. It also had an aftermarket cam, valvesprings, retainers, a beefed up lower end, long tube headers, full catback, HIDs, different taillights, different spoiler, a loud stereo, window tint, etc etc etc etc. the list goes on forever.
I really don't feel like the Mustang *needs* it. I might get around to it eventually, but it's not impeding anything, and is worlds better than what was stock in any prior car I've had. I'm not out to change things for the sake of changing them. I had *goals* with the car, and I think I've met all of them.
All I have left is a want for window tint, the drivers side fender fixed and repainted, new dampers, and a speaker upgrade for the doors.
I kinda want offroad pipes to be cat free, because I want more volume, but I don't want to deal with the stupid inspection laws on the east coast. I might consider changing the axlebacks instead.
beyond that, this car is truly done. Might not be much to you, but I've already got easily 3k in mods sunk into it, just to make it be like what I sort of envisioned as my *Dream Mustang*. I've achieved that, right down to the wheels.
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4/5/13, 10:08 PM
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No, I don't mind the stock shifter, because my car is a daily driven car that doesn't and won't be raced at the strip, the street, or anywhere else. nearly 10k on it and I have yet to do a burnout.
When I bought my 2005 GTO, I thought I cared, I raced it all over, street, strip, highway, mexico, underwater, in space, everywhere. A shifter was one of the first mods! By the time it had 15k on it, it had already been through three (YES THREE) sets of rear tires. It also had an aftermarket cam, valvesprings, retainers, a beefed up lower end, long tube headers, full catback, HIDs, different taillights, different spoiler, a loud stereo, window tint, etc etc etc etc. the list goes on forever.
I really don't feel like the Mustang *needs* it. I might get around to it eventually, but it's not impeding anything, and is worlds better than what was stock in any prior car I've had.
When I bought my 2005 GTO, I thought I cared, I raced it all over, street, strip, highway, mexico, underwater, in space, everywhere. A shifter was one of the first mods! By the time it had 15k on it, it had already been through three (YES THREE) sets of rear tires. It also had an aftermarket cam, valvesprings, retainers, a beefed up lower end, long tube headers, full catback, HIDs, different taillights, different spoiler, a loud stereo, window tint, etc etc etc etc. the list goes on forever.
I really don't feel like the Mustang *needs* it. I might get around to it eventually, but it's not impeding anything, and is worlds better than what was stock in any prior car I've had.