Roush TVS Blower?
10/11/13, 07:25 PM
#41
I Have No Life
Don't get me wrong LOVE the Shelby but there is a matter of it being just a "few"... bucks more. Even with the cost of all the add-on I'm not even close to the base sticker of the Shelby, but like I said love the Shelby. Really hard to compare the two except for HP now 
Add long-tubes, etc... and there goes the warranty
Add long-tubes, etc... and there goes the warranty
10/12/13, 09:52 AM
#42
Roush Forum Stalker
The reason the warranty coverage is reduced is because it is SUPERCHARGED and the motor is not specially built for it and the stress on the components is higher and of course the owners for the most part don't pussyfoot them around.
If you were Roush you wouldn't give a better warranty either. It's actually amazing that the warranty is as good as it is considering the nature of the application.
If you were Roush you wouldn't give a better warranty either. It's actually amazing that the warranty is as good as it is considering the nature of the application.
If that was the case, then the Magnuson that Burton put on his car would be a lot more dangerous to his car than said Roushchargers on stock 5.0 Mustangs. (His tune is said to be 600 crank HP as opposed to Roush RS3 cars with 565/ 575 horsepower from factory.)
10/12/13, 10:00 AM
#43
I Have No Life
Ummm,............yeah and no. The stock engine can take the supercharger as long as you aren't full out racing every single day and beating the crap out of the car every single day. If that was the case, then the Magnuson that Burton put on his car would be a lot more dangerous to his car than said Roushchargers on stock 5.0 Mustangs. (His tune is said to be 600 crank HP as opposed to Roush RS3 cars with 565/ 575 horsepower from factory.)
10/12/13, 03:12 PM
#44
Roush Forum Stalker
That is correct tony. Talked to magnuson extensively, along with several known tuners. 5.0 stock can handle about 600whp safely. So 530ish whp is plenty for me with magnusons box tune. I'm well within "safe" zone. And no I don't race or track or abuse, so I'm confident in magnuson and their engineers. That's why they offer 5 yr powertrain warranties.
10/13/13, 03:20 PM
#45
Bullitt Member
10/14/13, 06:58 AM
#46
Legacy TMS Member
Indeed, why expose yourself to 2 extra years of liability if you don't have to. An extended warranty is a almost purely a money maker. You don't mind paying for the peace of mind (Roush probably more than any other outfit knows how far you can take the engine without seriously compromising reliability) and Roush gets to put the money in the bank and collect the interest.
If the extended warranty was anywhere near a break even proposition or worse you wouldn't see an extended warranty for their product unless it was absolutely necessary to move the product.
Hell Whipple will provide a 8,000 dollar powertrain warranty (5k engine, 1.5k trans, 1.5k diff) that matches the new vehicle warranty (5yr/60k for Ford) when purchasing a new kit for a new car albeit probably only 525hp at the crank or maybe more as they don't spell out which kit might have a warranty exclusion.
If the extended warranty was anywhere near a break even proposition or worse you wouldn't see an extended warranty for their product unless it was absolutely necessary to move the product.
Hell Whipple will provide a 8,000 dollar powertrain warranty (5k engine, 1.5k trans, 1.5k diff) that matches the new vehicle warranty (5yr/60k for Ford) when purchasing a new kit for a new car albeit probably only 525hp at the crank or maybe more as they don't spell out which kit might have a warranty exclusion.
Last edited by bob; 10/14/13 at 07:04 AM.
10/14/13, 02:36 PM
#47
Roush Forum Stalker
(I was going to do the Phase 2, had everything filled out for it, but upon further investigation about MA emissions and not passing, I opted out, just to be safe. Even though I would have the original tune on the SCT tuner, just being safe. Who knows what the future holds though??
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10/14/13, 05:33 PM
#48
GTR Member
If you got to Phase 2, which I was going to do when I had bought the car, your car will not pass emissions, unless you have the stock tune on your tuner to revert to.
(I was going to do the Phase 2, had everything filled out for it, but upon further investigation about MA emissions and not passing, I opted out, just to be safe. Even though I would have the original tune on the SCT tuner, just being safe. Who knows what the future holds though?? )
(I was going to do the Phase 2, had everything filled out for it, but upon further investigation about MA emissions and not passing, I opted out, just to be safe. Even though I would have the original tune on the SCT tuner, just being safe. Who knows what the future holds though??
)Massachusetts must have emissions laws like california.
Last edited by Ltngdrvr; 10/14/13 at 05:35 PM.
10/14/13, 06:02 PM
#50
Roush Forum Stalker
10/14/13, 07:13 PM
#51
What is it that would cause it to fail, the CAI? OBDII wise it should be fine. My phase II is due for Texas inspection this upcoming February but I don't think I'll have any issues.
10/14/13, 07:48 PM
#52
I Have No Life
If you got to Phase 2, which I was going to do when I had bought the car, your car will not pass emissions, unless you have the stock tune on your tuner to revert to. (I was going to do the Phase 2, had everything filled out for it, but upon further investigation about MA emissions and not passing, I opted out, just to be safe. Even though I would have the original tune on the SCT tuner, just being safe. Who knows what the future holds though?? )
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10/15/13, 09:14 AM
#54
GTR Member
I keep seeing "we have no emission laws in our state" but of course this is not the case. Individual states may not do testing, or only do minimal testing, but they all have emissions regulations at the state level, and of course at the federal level.
Anyway, unless your state is like CA, or MA, or one of the other states that does stringent emissions testing, you should be able to pass inspection with any of the Roush phases so long as it is on the Roush tuning or the aftermarket tuning has not disabled any of the emissions equipment and all are in place so it would pass a visual inspection.
Now, if you live in a state, or a county like some in Texas, that only does a safety inspection then you are gold, do anything you want and still pass inspection.
Anyway, unless your state is like CA, or MA, or one of the other states that does stringent emissions testing, you should be able to pass inspection with any of the Roush phases so long as it is on the Roush tuning or the aftermarket tuning has not disabled any of the emissions equipment and all are in place so it would pass a visual inspection.
Now, if you live in a state, or a county like some in Texas, that only does a safety inspection then you are gold, do anything you want and still pass inspection.
Last edited by Ltngdrvr; 10/15/13 at 09:16 AM.
10/15/13, 03:21 PM
#55
Roush Forum Stalker
So tony, I think I'm confusing myself... So you have a stage 3 roush, but that's the phase 1 (575crank hp) kit... Is that correct? So the phase 1 kit will pass emissions? Luckily in Iowa there are no emission laws. Curious tho, would my new setup pass emissions if there was one?
If your kit says that it is 50 state legal, you will pass emissions in all states, including MA and CA, which have stricter emissions testing.
10/15/13, 04:30 PM
#57
Roush Forum Stalker
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