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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 11:23 AM
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After my experience with my GT500, I will ONLY buy an end of the build car from here on out.
do you mean end of the build year car or a car at the end build before a model change?

my best luck repair wise was cars right before a model change Ex. 98 stang, 03 f150, etc

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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by trick25
do you mean end of the build year car or a car at the end build before a model change?

my best luck repair wise was cars right before a model change Ex. 98 stang, 03 f150, etc
Both really.
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 11:41 AM
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After my experience with my GT500, I will ONLY buy an end of the build car from here on out.
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Both really.
i feel the same way. in the end that is may be what keeps me from getting a 2011. i can afford one but who knows what problems the 5.0 will have(it will have some)

ive been toying around with the idea of paying cash for a low mileage 04 mach to tide me over till i can get a 2013 built right before they change again. hopefully we will know at that time what the problems are.

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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by trick25
i feel the same way. in the end that is may be what keeps me from getting a 2011. i can afford one but who knows what problems the 5.0 will have(it will have some)

ive been toying around with the idea of paying cash for a low mileage 04 mach to tide me over till i can get a 2013 built right before they change again. hopefully we will know at that time what the problems are.
I'm sorry but that is just waaay to cautious for me. I can understand waiting until job2 or even the next model year. But waiting until the 2013 model??

Of course there might be some problems, but dang waiting that long?
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 11:57 AM
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Going with a last year build for a model can be a good thing, since there won't be any new options you might want, but you're stuck with something that won't hold value as soon as the cover drops on the next model.

I bought two end of model build vehicles, and it hasn't made enough of a difference for me to care. I'm going to get the extended warranty on the Mustang anyways, so I'm covered on all sides.
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 11:59 AM
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Warranties are great if you like using them. I just love taking my car to a dealer and having it come back with 4 dings. Of course the answer then is "oh our body shop can fix it". Yeah, right.
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 12:00 PM
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well lets see. lets look at fords record. old 5.4 2w. could not keep plugs in. new 5.4 3v. 6.0 diesel, new diesel. head gaskets on old 2.9 ranger.

not to say ford doesnt get it right cause they usually do. but it takes several years usually
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 12:02 PM
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05-early 08 3v plugs = shatter
05-10 axle moan since Ford refuses to add friction modifier
05-10 leaking brake reservoir caps
07-10 GT500 bent axles
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by trick25
well lets see. lets look at fords record. old 5.4 2w. could not keep plugs in. new 5.4 3v. 6.0 diesel, new diesel. head gaskets on old 2.9 ranger.

not to say ford doesnt get it right cause they usually do. but it takes several years usually
I guess its a matter of risk. IMO I'd rather take the chance and enjoy the car now, rather than wait because problems could occur at anytime in the production cycle. They are just more likely in the beginning....
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by eci
Warranties are great if you like using them. I just love taking my car to a dealer and having it come back with 4 dings. Of course the answer then is "oh our body shop can fix it". Yeah, right.
I agree, but that should never happen. If you have a hamfisted bunch of goons at a dealer putting dings in, I'd be having it out with the service manager and dealer manager. That's unacceptable for any car.

eci, I'm with ya, warranty is good, but the peace of mind and being able to save the money should you ever have to use it is part of the reason you might want to consider an extended one. For $1100, should a major component start to fail, that would pay for itself.

What was the reason your GT500 was in the dealer for so long?
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Overboost
I agree, but that should never happen. If you have a hamfisted bunch of goons at a dealer putting dings in, I'd be having it out with the service manager and dealer manager. That's unacceptable for any car.

eci, I'm with ya, warranty is good, but the peace of mind and being able to save the money should you ever have to use it is part of the reason you might want to consider an extended one. For $1100, should a major component start to fail, that would pay for itself.

What was the reason your GT500 was in the dealer for so long?
Bad fuel pump, bent axles, engine tick, misaligned body panels, bubbles in stripes, stuffing popping out of seat, 10MPH heavy vibration, axle scream on turns, paint peeling off bumper. Quality is Job 1.
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 12:07 PM
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Bad fuel pump, bent axles, engine tick, misaligned body panels, bubbles in stripes, stuffing popping out of seat, 10MPH heavy vibration, axle scream on turns, paint peeling off bumper. Quality is Job 1.
Wow. Lemon law anyone?
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 12:09 PM
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Wow. Lemon law anyone?
No ****. It's all good now but give me a break. I laugh my *** off when I hear of Ford's "great quality". The UAW are goons and can't build a car to save their lives. It's unfortunate because Ford engineers and design teams are so good, then their work is wrecked by a bunch of spoiled brats. If I had 1 or 2 problems no big deal, but seriously....

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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 12:16 PM
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I guess its a matter of risk. IMO I'd rather take the chance and enjoy the car now, rather than wait because problems could occur at anytime in the production cycle. They are just more likely in the beginning....

you hit the nail on the head. its a risk. some are willing to take it. some arent. me personally? i still might, but the point in that some wait is still valid.

same with buying new vs waiting a year or two and buying a car low mileage used. why not let someone else eat the new car depreciation. its a choice.

im glad i still have the ability to make them choices though in this economy.

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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 12:19 PM
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you hit the nail on the head. its a risk. some are willing to take it. some arent. me personally? i still might, but the point in that some wait is still valid.

same with buying new vs waiting a year or two and buying a car low mileage used. why not let someone else eat the new car depreciation. its a choice.

im glad i still have the ability to make them choices though in this economy.
well said
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 12:22 PM
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I agree, that's the sad part. Such a good design and engineering, but ****-poor execution.

I really hope that I get the chance to follow my car down the line when it's built, and I will be very interested to watch how it all goes together.

I've heard horror stories in the past of UAW builds. People throwing handfuls of bolts in door panels, leaving things loose, etc. That **** needs to stop. And they wonder why people despise them...
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by eci
Bad fuel pump, bent axles, engine tick, misaligned body panels, bubbles in stripes, stuffing popping out of seat, 10MPH heavy vibration, axle scream on turns, paint peeling off bumper. Quality is Job 1.
Holy shiitte...

You go me wondering about buying a Ford again. I had issues such as yours on my 98 Must. Cobra and I went with other makes and haven't been back since 08 when I bought a left over Ford Focus for a DD.

I know every make has horror stories but for the last 10 years its been 5 BMWs and 1 Porsche and 0 issues.

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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 01:34 PM
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Holy shiitte...

You go me wondering about buying a Ford again. I had issues such as yours on my 98 Must. Cobra and I went with other makes and haven't been back since 08 when I bought a left over Ford Focus for a DD.

I know every make has horror stories but for the last 10 years its been 5 BMWs and 1 Porsche and 0 issues.

Dave
surprised to hear no issues with the bmw, my friends X5 spent more time in for repair than they spent driving it. needless to say he got rid of it.

Its like a luck of the draw thing lol
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave07997S
Holy shiitte...

You go me wondering about buying a Ford again. I had issues such as yours on my 98 Must. Cobra and I went with other makes and haven't been back since 08 when I bought a left over Ford Focus for a DD.

I know every make has horror stories but for the last 10 years its been 5 BMWs and 1 Porsche and 0 issues.

Dave
I know several people who bought brand new 7 and 5 series and had basket cases.
1 Persons observations are never enought to make a judgement on a brand
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 01:51 PM
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I know several people who bought brand new 7 and 5 series and had basket cases.
1 Persons observations are never enought to make a judgement on a brand
yup. don't let that scare you dave. I'm sure I don't have to go in to detail about sample distributions and statistics. One sample simply cannot tell you enough.

As much as I hate relying it, JD associates and consumer reports data will be the best place to look. Make sure you read their fine print though...
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