I (or anyone else) am completely within my rights to ask the question. If you can't tolerate that, what the hell are you doing on the discussion forum?

Second, there are many reports coming in. You have your reasons for writing them off as coming from lesser humans who have "no business" owning these cars. I am not so quick to discount them and I don't hold the science of manual transmission operation in such high esteem to think that only a small group of elite drivers are qualified to operate them.

Third, Ford is offering no fixes on this issue and people who have had their cars attended to under their warranty are finding no resolution.

Fourth, you think you're smart enough to diagnose what these other people are experiencing with their gearboxes without coming within 100 feet of their cars?

Now... this kind of thing is getting press:
http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co.../photo_01.html

I appreciate your opinion...just not the manner in which you see fit to deliver it.

 

that would be a nice upgrade for the trans when im due for a clutch... me like this

 

I agree, MT problems or not I eventually plan on going FI and at that point replace the clutch. Might as well replace the tranny too.

 

Don't you see that you've answered your own questions and proven how ridiculous it was to start this thread in the first place? No one can diagnose people's cars over a forum. These discussions are totally useless. Instead of making hysteria threads like this, people should be working with the dealers or Ford directly. AFM should close their stupid thread, but they're getting lots of clicks from all over the web = ad $$$$$. It's like a traffic jam due to a little fender bender.

I can't stress this enough, there are 6-figure views and three thousand posts in a thread that is being perpetuated by literally a handful of people. There is nothing that you can extrapolate from it. It's scientifically and mathematically useless. It does not prove that the MT-82 is a completely flawed piece, as so many are trying to say.

I'm not here to be a Ford stooge or defend them. But just like I can't say that the MT-82 is deeply flawed in terms of the design/manufacture, you also can't say that all of the vague "rough shifting" comments aren't due to stupid, whiny owners who don't know how to drive their cars.

It's all been taken to a level where it didn't need to go. You don't even have a problem with you MT-82, right? So why start a thread like this? It's basically trolling. Sure you can say whatever you want, but no one ever said all threads/posts are of equal value and quality!

As an excited soon-to-be GT owner, I posted in this thread to fight the onslaught of ignorance and needless panic surrounding this issue. You accomplished nothing by starting this thread other than contributing to that panic and ignorance. Did you offer any solutions as a result of your own tinkering? No. Did you offer any inside info on a fix that might be coming from Ford? No. You've basically accomplished the equivalent of telling a child there is a monster under his bed.

See Overboost's post here, sums things up nicely:
https://themustangsource.com/f726/20...6/#post6056600

In this country, the burden of proof lies with the accuser! People are damning the MT-82 to hell just because a a few dozen people made a few thousands posts about "rough shifting" and clicked some poll options. This isn't a problem that affects all MT-82 cars, all the time. Some people have real problems. Some have problems caused by their own inability to drive properly or unrealistic expectations. Some people are actively trying to imagine problems, like you when you started this thread.

I find it all ridiculous and immature. Your thread doesn't pose a legitimate question or address some sort of real problem, at least not in a way that hasn't been done by other threads here and on other forums.

It's starting to go round and round in circles like the AFM thread, and I would like nothing more than to see this one locked and thrown away. I'm all done here.

 

You know, back when I was a member of FSC.com, I had the rear planetary gears go out in my 4L60E. How did I know? I told the guys on the forum my problems and the issues I'd had and sure as shirley that was the problem. Sometimes things can be solved on a forum.

Just throwing this in there. Not saying the MT-82's issues will be solved or that a forum will fix them or that there is a problem at all. But I'm just sayin'.

 

Is this the same ssimaniac that has a 2012 boss on order if so sham on you

 

I think the worry here is that this thread is a potential prelude to an AFM style rant fest on TMS. I don't think anyone has an issue with people with real problems discussing them. That said, the thread on AFM is not what a lot of folks would consider a constructive discussion on the issue.

Thankfully, my time on this forum has shown me that what is happening on AFM is very unlikely to be tolerated here. Just my two cents.

 

im sorry, AFM is like hair salon. Bunch of women. I wouldnt be surpirsed if half the problem is they cant drive stick.

 

No real impending doom for me.I'm covered 7 years-72,000 miles.Just means I'll have to wait longer before doing any performance mods.

I do have a issue with 1-2 shifts & 2-3 makes the now infamous CRUNCH noise.

I'm hoping Ford comes out with a real permanent TSB for those of us having issues.

 

I hope everyone finds what they are looking for!

I'm looking for a sweet ride with miles of smiles before we part ways, her to go to one of my kids and me to go to my reward.

 

My 6R80 is the best auto I've ever owned. It can handle any mod you throw at it. I'm just adding to the post count in this thread. I think a lot of the MT82 problems are due to drivers that are not use to driving a manual transmission.

 

I still am waiting for my car, but since I never have driven any sticks that were all that smooth. I do not know that I need it to be like butter, although that would be nice. Half of driving a stick is getting used to your car to feel exactly how to move the clutch and the stick to have it work smoothly. Once you really know your car, you know little tricks to make it get working better. Honestly, there were a lot of other problems that were more annoying than how smoothly they shifted.

 

Because a lot of people are new to mustangs. They probably all drove a VW, civic, or some other dumb car. Every GT shifts like ****. U gotta do a shifter and bracket. A lot of the problem is the skip shift and people not understanding it.

 

+1 to this. I hope all you folks disregarding the crunchy / notchy stuborn shifting operator induced look at the above mentioned link. Maybe some understanding of what remote linkage and direct linkage and how it effects shifting occurs. The notion that because you 400 hp plus is a reason for rough shifting is simply unacceptable.

 

Wow, a post from you that doesn't say "It's made in China it's garbage." While the fact that the transmissions have problems is fine, it's pretty obvious that some are having major issues. Direct linkage would definitely be preferred by most when adding additional power, I planned on going to a Tremec before going FI. Ford went to Getrag to attempt to get a better transmission from a company that has been building them for decades. Obviously with the issues that are coming up with some of the transmissions(some not most) this plan didn't go quite well. As for notchy shifting being acceptable, I'm sorry to ruin your hopes but it is. Grinding is completely different. This is not some luxury vehicle. Its along the same lines as high performance LCAs causing more NVH. You sacrifice comfort for performance in a transmission just like anywhere else in the vehicle.

 

You are obviously hanging around here actively looking for reasons NOT to buy a Mustang. That is a screwy approach to anything in life. Have you even test-driven a 2011-2012 GT manual? I can't believe you would let a couple of extreme cases and loud-mouthed crusaders on the INTERNET discourage you from buying this car. For every one guy SCREAMING about his MT-82, there are probably 100 too busy ENJOYING it to even consider posting in a forum!

Go buy a Honda Civic. They are "Made in USA" with lots of "Made in USA" parts content. They also have impossibly light clutches and smooth shifting.

 

Yes i have test driven the 11 and I am considering buying one. So no am not looking for reason not to buy, but a fix that will make me want to buy the car. But unlike you I will not accept problems with any major componets of the car much less any thing else. It is apparent from all the postings and your acknowledgement of the issue that something is wrong but you are willing to go with it. If more buyers were to demand proper working cars many be we would not have put up with inferior products. Also knocking the competition for making a better product dosen't solve the problem. Ford needs to fix it.

 

Pathetic. No, I most CERTAINLY DO NOT acknowledge that this is a wide-spread issue. Some MT-82 owners have problems. Some new 485 Italias also burned to the ground, and that's a $200K Ferrari! NO example of EVERY car will be perfect. Yes, there are a few MT-82 cars out there that have problems, but most DO NOT!

You are just looking for an excuse not to buy the car, and this is as poor and weak as they come. But it's your money. Go to Camaro5 and good riddance! People like you will never be happy with anything.

 

go buy a VW butt plug

 

Does this forum not have moderators? Just curious.