Yeah, I'd say that's an issue.

The 370Zs have actually had some transmission issues as well early on. A lot of transmissions were replaced for bum 5th and 6th gears. Some would grind into 5th/6th and sometimes jump out of gear.

 

I do not shop at Wal-Mart and I have a list in my favorites of American made products. I buy American when ever I can. Yeah, that is a problem with all the stuff made in China. Hell I just might go retro and restore a 60's or 70's American iron.

 

With Ford, it's a hit or a miss with these cars. I really love my 5.0, but it sucks having to cringe everytime I shift. I just want it to be smooth. In warm weather, it's actually butter.

05-09's had significant water leak issues. A lot of owners were affected by that as well. Including me :P
I just noticed that one guy has serious water leak issues with his 2011 (In the warranty section) Hope history doesn't repeat itself with this

I guess we try to cheap it, and that's what you get when you buy a 412HP car for under 40k. Most new cars have issues, it's just a headache to deal with. That's the reason I buy new cars, in order to avoid that. So far, I'm disappointed in Ford products. I just have bad luck with them.

 

To the first point, FAIL. About 90% of those posts are the result of only 20-25 people consistently rehashing their problems. It is literally PAGE AFTER PAGE with the same things being repeated. Nothing constructive is being contributed at this point. Basically, that thread is one man's personal crusade. I actually feel for him, and hope it gets resolved, but there are other ways he could go about it and he is certainly doing the Mustang community no great favor.

To the second point, FAIL. Like that poll is accurate or legit in any way. I did lots of research methodology and survey design as an undergrad. Forum polls generate Mickey Mouse results that cannot or should not be taken seriously. Even if 30% of people have issues, not all of those issues are the same in terms of severity, etc. Some people may have major issues like gears popping out, shearing teeth off, etc. Others may be stupid whiners who can't deal with a bit of notchiness or resistance when cold. You called us retarded. To say "30% of owners are affected by this" throws your credibility in the toilet. This isn't some disease that affects its victims in the same way. How can you put your faith in a forum poll? I mean, there's no chance people just trolled it an clicked on it for fun, right?

Again, grinding is not OK. Popping out of gear is not OK. Teeth being stripped it not OK. I'd be pissed if I had some of these severe issues. But notchiness and a little cold resistance is no real cause for concern.

The VAST MAJORITY of MT-82 owners have no problems. Even if your worst-case "30% scenario" WERE true and valid (which it's not, 30% is waaayyyyyyy off), that leaves 70% of people with no issue!

STOP THE MADNESS

 

Agreed. Every manual transmission I've ever driven has been notchy to some degree on cold shifts. A clunk here or there... that's normal to me.

Once the MT82 is warmed up I find that it's one of the smoothest I've driven. Until then, I just take it easy and let it warm up.

 

What madness are you talking about? We paid 40k for our cars and we want them to work. I don't have 40k just to flush down the toilet, so I don't see your argument. Even if it's just 1 owner, you have to fix his ****.

As far as the 3000 page thread, there are multiple owners reporting issues. Go back and count since you're interested in statistics.

Also, I never stated it was 30% of ALL owners. I said based on the poll on one website, it's 30% of people that voted. This has nothing to do with statistical analysis on all 6MT. Hell, if it's just 1%, that's 220 pissed owners. As a customer, what business would want that to spread out when you're in such a tight competition with Camaro and others.

Again, I don't see your point about the whole "madness". If you don't like us complaining so we can get Ford to fix out ****, then don't post. I'm pretty sure we can all diagnose what's normal and what isn't. We don't need people that aren't having issues to tell us to move along. We spread the word and hope Ford hears us. There's nothing wrong with that. If you want to give me 40k, I will never post again.

 

3,000 reply thread with 264 individual posters. A good 200 or so of those only have 1 post in the thread, and without reading through everything I can't tell you how many of those 264 are reporting issues.

 

There are two polls. Look them up. At least 100 people are reporting issues with just rough shifting/grinding. That's pretty big from such a small sample size. I don't want to get into a statistics debate. We don't have the data and it's all speculation for now. Until Ford comes out with something, it's just filling empty space.

 

Then go buy an Accord or Camry. They have SUBSTANTIALLY higher US-made parts content than an F-150 or Mustang.

Also, Ford, GM, and Chrysler have had production operations in Mexico going back as far as the 1920s. You may be surprised at how much "un-Murrcan" content there is even in older US cars.

People will believe what they want to believe. It's a global economy. I ordered a Mustang because it's a great car. Less than 60% of its content value comes from the US, so the fact that it's assembled in the US is just a small bonus.

 

At about 8,000 miles on a April 13, 2011-build car, no real issues to report other than the below:

- When letting out the clutch at low speeds and shifting 1-2 there is definite mechanical clunking. If anything it reminds me of the noise/feel of my old 1982 Datsun pickup (2.2L I-4), which lasted until I sold it at 217,000 miles and the guy I sold it to wouldn't let me buy it back from him a year later. It simply has a more mechanical feel/sound, but doesn't mean it won't last forever.

- It WILL slightly grind on a fast 5-6 upshift, like the syncros aren't quite ready. This is why I bought the Barton shifter bracket, which I think will stabilize things & mitigate this issue. Haven't yet installed it.

- Sorry apologists, but I too hate that it's made in China. As pointed out already we are awash in Chinese-manufactured goods, which I cannot help, but when I buy a FORD product supposedly made in Michigan, it's just not a positive attribute for me. Sorry, but China isn't just a foreign country, it's a COMMUNIST country that is inimical to my country's interests & security and it supports my country's enemies.

 

Polish dude, you don't even have a mustang yet and you're in this debate. I don't even know why I'm replying to you.

 

lmao SSI- why do you even bother replying to him lol

 

Slow day at work

 

I experience a rough shift into first, 2nd, and 3rd. It def is not a grind because you can feel the and hear dthe diff between a grind and a notchy shift, but it is audible and kinda sucks. I love this car but I came from an 07 VW GTI and that was what you would call butter when it came to shifting. I know sometimes when I am doing spirited driving and am shifting into third it misses a lot and grinds like a *****. I am not going to scream gloom and doom and I dont feel like the world is falling, but it def is a problem and is hopefully addressed.

 

Thiiisssssssss. It's all been blown WAY out of proportion.


No. Just, no. Those polls are anecdotal and for personal amusement only. These polls are statistically worthless and invalid BY DESIGN. They are not valid in any way, so there is no statistics debate to get into. No car company that I know of releases anything resembling detailed warranty data, expecting them to do that is RIDICULOUS! Those are trade secrets which each company guards VERY closely. Keep dreaming/waiting!

Even so, you can't lump "rough shifting/grinding" together. Grinding is indeed an issue. "Rough shifting" is not, because it's likely some limp-wristed fool who can't deal with a bit of notchiness or resistance. I bet a lot of people claiming "rough shifting" issues just suck at engaging the clutch smoothly! LOL, that's OPERATOR ERROR, not the car's fault. Again, I think all the great press the 2011 GT got made some people simply expect too much. You can't have M3 performance and Lexus refinement for $30K. Yes, the design of the MT-82 looks to be a little iffy with a semi-remote shifter mount design handling all that Coyote power. But so far, again, most MT-82 owners don't have issues!

I sort of regret posting in this thread now...it's taken the same turn as the thread on AFM, with people succumbing to frenzied emotion instead of rational discussion.

 

I have owned many cars foreign and American. Had my own repair shop in the 70's and I don't remember replacing or repairing any parts that were not made in the U.S.A. For now I am trying to support the U.S.A. in anyway I can so I don't think I'll be buying a ricer or other foreign make any time soon. Check my sig when you get a chance......and buy American.

 

I'm not an apologist. It actually does make me a little sick and sad that my near $40K American car has a China-made transmission. I would have definitely paid extra if Ford allowed the T-56 as a factory option. But isn't that made in Mexico? It's really hard to win these days.

No, I don't have my GT yet, but I will soon. And I'm confident it will be OK. Don't underestimate the power of positive thinking.

 

LOL must be Fanboy friday early ??
if they have a problem let them vent,if you don't like it move on and don't post up ..
ya it is that simple..
now go play !!!

 

Yeah, not an apologist here either. I understand the stigma that is attached to Chinese-made stuff. I would have liked it better if the transmission was built in a Getrag factory in Germany. That actually gets you some street cred.

Ultimately it doesn't bother me much, though. I work in investments for a living so I'm used to the whole globalized economy.

 

All I care about is making sure that the people who actually have problems are the ones that are speaking up... and that they get their problems fixed.