silverbull271

Yeah? keep warranty intact? can you help me out? maybe email me some info and pricing?

Can Ford service install it?

mach172@yahoo.com

Thanks my man

silverbull271

Maybe it does BUT i didnt feel it----could be due to the electronic throttle body, as opposed tO the Mach's cable?

MACH def pulled harder----


JMHO

Stangpilot007

http://store.roushperformance.com/detail.aspx?ID=1185

Yates performance has the best price and most Ford dealers can install them for around $800. You might need to shop around though, my local dealer quoted me $1,950!

laserred38

I'm sure the 5.0 is a good tune away from reinstating that "low end torque" feeling you guys are missing.

Congrats OP. We better see that blower on the car within the next 2 months.

Fazm

you mean it def FELT like it pulled harder, obviously it doesnt cuz it aint running mid 12s stock lol

stangfoeva

you know what I'm actually happy for you. your logic on the 5.0's torque makes no sense, but you got a great deal on a '10 so congrats

Tony Alonso

The 4V in the '03-'04 Mach 1 was, in my opinion, one of the best iterations of the 4.6L engine. Peak torque, as shown by many people who dyno'ed their cars, was more in the range of 345 ft-lb (rated at 325 ft-lb), which makes a big difference in the "seat of the pants"-o-meter for many people. The difference was in the intake cams for that engine.

After reading all the comments about "feels slow", a couple of things come to mind -
1) depending on how much torque "you've been raised on", the new 5.0L engine will feel wicked fast or somewhat slow in the seat-of-the pants only
2) people are just now getting miles on their 5.0 cars, so it might be awhile still before we really get a sense of the "seat-of-the-pants"-o-meters reporting a stronger push
3) the refinement of the 2010 updates really does damp out some of the visceral experience of what seems like "feels fast" as compared to the '05-'09s and definitely the '99-'04 SN-95s
4) forced induction on the '05-'10 engines boosting power/torque to the 5.0 levels might "feel faster" to some

I definitely enjoy my 2010 GT for the around-town, daily driver experience, and it "feels fast" in that setting. When accelerating from freeway speeds, I definitely notice a power deficit as compared to my supercharged '01 Bullitt or my '03 Mach 1. Of course, those two cars also "feel faster" than the 2010 in the 0-60 range because of the torque peaks.

As a good friend has said to me many times, you talk horsepower but you drive torque.

At any rate, it's good to be a Mustang enthusiast these days!

Automagically

I think many posts in this are making valid points about true performance vs. seat of the pants. I will say that the seat of the pants is what's exhilerating but the speedo doesn't lie either.

So just for some comparo, we should reflect on the 2010 FRPP Mustang GT, maybe give some insight into what a blower, some suspenion, brakes, wheel, shifter, exhaust upgrades to a 2010 "feel" like compared to the 2010.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZdR-dFK1vg

Still seems like on paper the 2011 wins. Now, there are other supercharger kits, I was just trying to point out some flaws with the arguments being made that slapping a supercharger on it will fix the problem are not so bullet proof.

Not to play devil's advocate or anything...or maybe it was.

silverbull271

Ok guys----

I got up early and detailed it ZAINO style (Z2,Z5,Z7 , and the Z-All in one)

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Stangpilot007

Looks awesome! Black with red interior is hot.

Get it lowered and it'll look perfect. Here's mine with FRPP springs.

Ninjak

Very nice. Get yourself a light-bar, and bam...its gtg. Also My saleen blower did not kill my warranty. Its in tack. So you can add them to the list of keeping your warranty and having the fun to !

cdynaco

Do you remember what rpm peak torque was at?

It seems to me that pretty much all NA OHC's have to be revved as compared to a pushrod. So none are going to ever feel as strong off the line as a pushrod.

BLKCLOUD

Mach 1's peak torque was listed as 320 lb/ft @ 4200 rpm.

The 5.0 makes more power/torque everywhere, and even though it is heavier, the power-to-weight ratio is also better at any given rpm. Additionally, the gearing is better - even with the 3.31s - due to the more aggressive transmission gears, providing more torque multiplication at any given rpm/speed. In short, the 2011 GT will accelerate faster from 1000 rpm, 4000 rpm, or any other rpm over the 03/04 Mach 1.

Before anybody cries foul, I'm a big fan of the Mach 1, but there really isn't much comparison between the two.

Final thought - the seat of the pants is the worlds biggest liar. You can feel fast if you wish. I prefer to be fast.

To each their own.

Silverbull...enjoy your car - other opinions (including mine) are irrelevant.

Tony Alonso

The official specs have it at 4250RPM. My experience with the sweet spot and the stock 3:55 gear is between 3000-4500, which is similar to the other modular engines. And very true...compared to the old 5.0, that grunt won't be felt off the line (under 2500RPM).

A lot of Mach 1 owners who like the "shove-you-back" feel use the 4:10 gear.

And of course, it depends on the sensitivity of your butt-o-meter about what constitutes a strong feeling shove.

codeman94

wow... Shaker 1000 in a vert? that's gonna be a TINY trunk!..

phanattic

What dealer? I've been quietly waiting for that too good to turn down price on a GT premium coupe.

silverbull271

Larson Ford in Lakewood on RT 88

Ask for Kyle----tell him the guy who bought the 10 vert on Wed referred you----he will take care of you!

silverbull271

They have about 5 or 6 LOADED GT 2010 coupes that they are practically giving away

Lemme know how you make out-----ill call them for you if you want----

This one looked SICK on the lot-----

http://www.inventory.fordvehicles.co...BP8CH4A5102097

silverbull271

Does anybody know if the 2010 GT has HP increased/decreased with higher or lower octane like the 2011?

Thanks in advance

Tony Alonso

Use of 87 octane fuel gets the 315hp/320lb-ft torque output. It was publicized in the media material from Ford that if you use 91 octane, the adaptive strategy would advance the timing so you got about 10 more lb-ft of peak torque. There are a few posts in the 2010+ forum that mention this.