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I don't think the next Mustang will be anything like what people hope it will be.

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Old May 26, 2007 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by MrClean
I've got to chime in again....
Yes driving techinques makes a huge difference in the MPG of a hybrid, just like it makes a huge difference on regular vehicles.

However, drafting semis, rolling through stopsigns, stoplights, etc. is not safe driving and not something that drivers should be attempting.

And again, the real big deal with the new EPA tests is that many of the hybrids simply "beat" the old EPA city MPG test. Some of the hybrids got higher city MPG than highway MPG, which any of us with some technical sense know is impossible. I'm sure that some of those hybrids were intentionally engineered to beat the EPA test. The reason why the city MPG of those hybrids was so high was that they ran primarily off their batteries and the test did not account for the fuel needed to recharge the batteries. The new EPA test effectively closes those loopholes and was long overdue.
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Old May 26, 2007 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MrClean
at the same time I also had a '97 Viper GTS to get my acceleration kicks, but it was a toy, not a DD, and since I drove it like I stole it, I averaged 9 mpg! !


I'm sure it was fun...but MAN that would suck

Bet you know where ALL the gas stations are
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Old May 26, 2007 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer


I'm sure it was fun...but MAN that would suck

Bet you know where ALL the gas stations are
You think? Actually the tank was of decent size, so I actually got more miles out of a tank of the GTS than I do from this one!

BUT, I'm enjoying this car just as much....and I get to take more than one passenger for a ride!
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Old May 27, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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You should. My 96 cobra had 4.10's and made 295rwhp and it got 25-26mpg on the free way. Alot of low mpg problems are not nessecarily the car, more is to be said about the foot on the pedal. If you know how to drive ultra conservative, you can get some incredible fuel mileage out of just about anything.
when i bought my cobra on the trip home i averaged 29.3 MPG on the highway. speed also kills mpg, i set the cruise at 75 and left it there
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Old May 28, 2007 | 05:28 PM
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I had a leased 05 V6 Mustang that made 30mpg on the highway-theoretically it is possible to hit 35mpg.
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Old May 29, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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Yeah sure...if your theory includes a steep down hill, tailwind, and popping the car into neutral.
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Old May 30, 2007 | 12:47 AM
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One of the easiest ways Ford can bump up Mustang fuel economy is to catch up with the now over 10 year old GM trend of offering a 6 speed. My 95 Trans Am used to get 26 or 27 mpg on the highway in California (meaning I was cruising at about 90mph). I wouldn't feather my way onto onramps either. It had a 3.29 rear end (I think, can't remember for sure), it's a formula Ford could follow easily and I'm a little surprised that they didn't offer a 6 speed on the GT's in 2005.
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Old May 30, 2007 | 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Fluxx
One of the easiest ways Ford can bump up Mustang fuel economy is to catch up with the now over 10 year old GM trend of offering a 6 speed. My 95 Trans Am used to get 26 or 27 mpg on the highway in California (meaning I was cruising at about 90mph). I wouldn't feather my way onto onramps either. It had a 3.29 rear end (I think, can't remember for sure), it's a formula Ford could follow easily and I'm a little surprised that they didn't offer a 6 speed on the GT's in 2005.
Ford already has one 6-speed they're starting to offer which they co-developed with GM, and another (DSG) that's in developement now. So I think that's covered.
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Old May 30, 2007 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by AnotherMustangMan
Yeah sure...if your theory includes a steep down hill, tailwind, and popping the car into neutral.
While driving towards a magnet factory
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Old May 30, 2007 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Fluxx
One of the easiest ways Ford can bump up Mustang fuel economy is to catch up with the now over 10 year old GM trend of offering a 6 speed. My 95 Trans Am used to get 26 or 27 mpg on the highway in California (meaning I was cruising at about 90mph). I wouldn't feather my way onto onramps either. It had a 3.29 rear end (I think, can't remember for sure), it's a formula Ford could follow easily and I'm a little surprised that they didn't offer a 6 speed on the GT's in 2005.
This will be yet another new thing for FORD to sell and keep guys like me buying every other year
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Old May 31, 2007 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Moosetang
Ford already has one 6-speed they're starting to offer which they co-developed with GM, and another (DSG) that's in developement now. So I think that's covered.
Oh man, a DSG-equipped Mustang would be hawt.
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Old May 31, 2007 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Moosetang
Ford already has one 6-speed they're starting to offer which they co-developed with GM, and another (DSG) that's in developement now. So I think that's covered.
Actually, the GT500 is the only current Mustang offered with a 6 speed, the transmission that Ford and GM codeveloped was a 7 speed that will see Caddillac and Lincoln duty. What I mean is you should have a 6 speed option from the base V6 and up.
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackWolf2007
I had a leased 05 V6 Mustang that made 30mpg on the highway-theoretically it is possible to hit 35mpg.
I can back this statement up with living proof too! I've taken the stang on a few road trips here and there. My highest highway total was 32.3 mpg (went 128 miles on 3.96 gallons). It's fairly easy to get 30 mpg on a 100% highway trip.
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by tacbear
I know Ford could build a 3200# RWD Mustang with 350 hp and a 6 speed tranny that could get 20 city/28+ highway if they wanted to!!
I seriously doubt it...modern cars with modern safety features weigh more, so the problem is that if you want a safer car, its going to be heavy. For example the new Scion xB weighs nearly 3200lb! it gained 500-700 from the outgoing model because people wanted more creature comforts and I'm assuming that the car is less of a tin can now too.

Lets not forget that the Old fox body had no strength either..even the Fox4/Sn95 still stucked, but not as much. Ride in a pre 04 convertible and then in a post 05 one and you'll be shocked at how much of difference their is in the two....
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by GT98
I seriously doubt it...modern cars with modern safety features weigh more, so the problem is that if you want a safer car, its going to be heavy. For example the new Scion xB weighs nearly 3200lb! it gained 500-700 from the outgoing model because people wanted more creature comforts and I'm assuming that the car is less of a tin can now too.

Lets not forget that the Old fox body had no strength either..even the Fox4/Sn95 still stucked, but not as much. Ride in a pre 04 convertible and then in a post 05 one and you'll be shocked at how much of difference their is in the two....
for torsional rigidity! My '07 GT/CS is tighter and stiffer than my '99 C5 Vette, and and my '97 Viper GTS were.....
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Old Jun 8, 2007 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by GT98
I seriously doubt it...modern cars with modern safety features weigh more, so the problem is that if you want a safer car, its going to be heavy. For example the new Scion xB weighs nearly 3200lb! it gained 500-700 from the outgoing model because people wanted more creature comforts and I'm assuming that the car is less of a tin can now too.

Lets not forget that the Old fox body had no strength either..even the Fox4/Sn95 still stucked, but not as much. Ride in a pre 04 convertible and then in a post 05 one and you'll be shocked at how much of difference their is in the two....
Ford is working on lowering the weight of their vehicles. Unfortunately, its not going to happen over night.
It all has to do with design too!
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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by GTJOHN
Ford is working on lowering the weight of their vehicles...
But please Ford, if you are listening, don't do it by adding any MORE cheap-looking plastic to the interiors. Do it with something cool like a carbon-fiber roof. Oh, and you have my permission to do a spoiler delete on all Mustangs from now on.
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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 12:09 PM
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make the mustang smaller.
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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by IWantMyNewGT
Oh, and you have my permission to do a spoiler delete on all Mustangs from now on.
+1!! Not only will it look better, but we'll lose, what? 6 lbs in the process? I don't know how much the fugly rear spoiler weighs, but it's got to be considerble!
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Old Jun 17, 2007 | 09:00 AM
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If it has a lip built in... (as to what some people have said it does)
it might not even need a spoiler.... win/win all around.
Less parts and stuff...and less weight.
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