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Old Sep 27, 2008 | 05:54 PM
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nothing i havent told anyone, i have a friend that works at ford and has just told me that this isnt a generation youll want to miss out on. its just like boomer said. its not just a refresh it is an improvement on one of the most sucessfull mustang designs...its a bit more contemporary, aggressive and overall very different (while keeping heritage and basis from the 05 of course).
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Old Sep 27, 2008 | 06:41 PM
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This will definately be a step up from the SN-95 refresh they did in 1999 with their "New Edge" design. These new 2010's will be well on their way, tearing down Main Street USA, before the first CAMARO rolls off the assembly line.
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 01:46 PM
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I'm anxious to check out the 10's when they hit the dealerships, but will also be waiting for the return of the 5.0 before I buy again. My 05 is paid for and still lots of fun to drive - so no big rush.
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by FLAstangx3
This will definately be a step up from the SN-95 refresh they did in 1999 with their "New Edge" design. These new 2010's will be well on their way, tearing down Main Street USA, before the first CAMARO rolls off the assembly line.
I couldn't agree more Dave. As the 2010 will also get hips, and new interior. Whereas the SN-95 "New Edge" refresh design in 1999, clearly did not.
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 01:00 AM
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As the 2010 will also get hips, and new interior.
Not to mention a BIG bump in amenities and technology. In addition to the stuff they added this past year (ambient lighting, HIDs, etc), we're also gonna see dual zone climate control, parktronic distance control...and of course that amazing 8" TFT NAV system with realtime traffic and weather, SYNC 2.0 (for complete voice activated control via new switches on the steering wheel), and - and this is cool - an ability for the car's PCM to communicate with the NAV system and tell it to alert you when your fuel level drops below a certain level so that the NAV can automatically bring up the nearest gas stations in your area (organized by your own pre-programmed brand preferences, if you want).

Pretty cool stuff. Combined with that higher quality interior, the 2010 Stang should meet with a favorable response from both consumers and critics alike.

Throw in a 5.0L 400HP engine for the 2011 GT, and you'll have the greatest Mustang Ford has ever built - by a big margin.

Of course, the pundits will still lament (arguably with justification) the SRA.
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Hollywood_North GT

Throw in a 5.0L 400HP engine for the 2011 GT, and you'll have the greatest Mustang Ford has ever built - by a big margin.

Of course, the pundits will still lament (arguably with justification) the SRA.

+1!!!!!
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 01:27 AM
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I'm fine with them dissing on the SRA, as long as they give credit where credit is due with the rest of the car. You have to take the good with the bad...
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 09:55 AM
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True, but that won't stop us from wishing for all-good...
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 11:16 AM
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True, but that won't stop us from wishing for all-good...
I think that the 2011 will be all good. I dont have any road courses with in an hour of me and I really wonder how many 'stangs actually make it on a course? Even the nearest 1/8th mile strip is 40 minutes, but my stang will be there eventually.
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 12:32 PM
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I think that the 2011 will be all good. I dont have any road courses with in an hour of me and I really wonder how many 'stangs actually make it on a course? Even the nearest 1/8th mile strip is 40 minutes, but my stang will be there eventually.
Well, for me the SRA vs. IRS debate is a bit more practical. With the crappy pavement on most roads these days, at least in this part of the country, it can be disconcerting to hit a bad spot on a curve when driving at even moderate pace and the SRA does a quick side-step. And as a long-time Mustang fan, I'd just like to see it as good as it can be.

Don't get me wrong; I think Ford did an excellent job of controlling the SRA on the S197. But past experience tells me that, even on a daily driver, IRS can be markedly superior.

That's what I meant by wishing for all-good: a rear end that behaves itself in trying, real-world conditions. (Not trying to reopen the IRS vs. SRA debate, either!! That's been done to death, IMHO...)
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 12:56 PM
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Well, for me the SRA vs. IRS debate is a bit more practical. With the crappy pavement on most roads these days, at least in this part of the country, it can be disconcerting to hit a bad spot on a curve when driving at even moderate pace and the SRA does a quick side-step. And as a long-time Mustang fan, I'd just like to see it as good as it can be.

Don't get me wrong; I think Ford did an excellent job of controlling the SRA on the S197. But past experience tells me that, even on a daily driver, IRS can be markedly superior.

That's what I meant by wishing for all-good: a rear end that behaves itself in trying, real-world conditions. (Not trying to reopen the IRS vs. SRA debate, either!! That's been done to death, IMHO...)
I understand your point and please dont think that I am against the IRS either. But this does remind me of a situation that I ran into for years.
Family comes in to buy a new car and has to have four wheel drive, but is driving a front wheel drive car. They tell me that the winters are too bad, yet I distinctly remember growing up with my first three cars being rear wheel drive only. Wtih no snow tires either. I ask them how their current cars is and they say fine, but they have to have 4wd! I think to myself, no, you want 4wd, big difference between need and want.
Almost all trucks are still SRA and I really dont hear anyone complaining about that. Are trucks driving even slower than your moderately paced speed?
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Hollywood_North GT
Not to mention a BIG bump in amenities and technology. In addition to the stuff they added this past year (ambient lighting, HIDs, etc), we're also gonna see dual zone climate control, parktronic distance control...and of course that amazing 8" TFT NAV system with realtime traffic and weather, SYNC 2.0 (for complete voice activated control via new switches on the steering wheel), and - and this is cool - an ability for the car's PCM to communicate with the NAV system and tell it to alert you when your fuel level drops below a certain level so that the NAV can automatically bring up the nearest gas stations in your area (organized by your own pre-programmed brand preferences, if you want).

Pretty cool stuff. Combined with that higher quality interior, the 2010 Stang should meet with a favorable response from both consumers and critics alike.

Throw in a 5.0L 400HP engine for the 2011 GT, and you'll have the greatest Mustang Ford has ever built - by a big margin.

Of course, the pundits will still lament (arguably with justification) the SRA.

That is awesome
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 01:28 PM
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I understand your point and please dont think that I am against the IRS either. But this does remind me of a situation that I ran into for years.
Family comes in to buy a new car and has to have four wheel drive, but is driving a front wheel drive car. They tell me that the winters are too bad, yet I distinctly remember growing up with my first three cars being rear wheel drive only. Wtih no snow tires either. I ask them how their current cars is and they say fine, but they have to have 4wd! I think to myself, no, you want 4wd, big difference between need and want.
Almost all trucks are still SRA and I really dont hear anyone complaining about that. Are trucks driving even slower than your moderately paced speed?
I here you. Too many people "need" features that they cannot really use. I, too, learned to drive, in snow country, with only RWD vehicles. Only ever got stuck once, when a gust of wind literally blew me off the road.

But, yes, the pick-em-ups (and most everyone else) are driving A LOT slower than my "moderate" pace, especially on curves/hills. I tend to plan ahead and carry as much speed as is reasonable, to avoid downshifting. It's a "fuel conservation" thing, don'tcha know...
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 03:38 PM
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I here you. Too many people "need" features that they cannot really use...
I *NEED* a 5 liter, 6 speed 400 hp BEAST!!!
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Hollywood_North GT
Not to mention a BIG bump in amenities and technology. In addition to the stuff they added this past year (ambient lighting, HIDs, etc), we're also gonna see dual zone climate control, parktronic distance control...and of course that amazing 8" TFT NAV system with realtime traffic and weather, SYNC 2.0 (for complete voice activated control via new switches on the steering wheel), and - and this is cool - an ability for the car's PCM to communicate with the NAV system and tell it to alert you when your fuel level drops below a certain level so that the NAV can automatically bring up the nearest gas stations in your area (organized by your own pre-programmed brand preferences, if you want).

Pretty cool stuff. Combined with that higher quality interior, the 2010 Stang should meet with a favorable response from both consumers and critics alike.

Throw in a 5.0L 400HP engine for the 2011 GT, and you'll have the greatest Mustang Ford has ever built - by a big margin.

Of course, the pundits will still lament (arguably with justification) the SRA.
Pretty cool stuff indeed. My only fear, is how much of a price increase are we going to pay for the advanced improvements in technology
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Old Sep 30, 2008 | 01:45 AM
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Pretty cool stuff indeed. My only fear, is how much of a price increase are we going to pay for the advanced improvements in technology
Rumor has it that a fully loaded GT will retail for $40K.

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Old Sep 30, 2008 | 09:31 AM
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Rumor has it that a fully loaded GT will retail for $40K.

Ouch!!
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Old Sep 30, 2008 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Hollywood_North GT
Rumor has it that a fully loaded GT will retail for $40K.

How about fully loaded GT convertible. No way a GT coupe will cost that much. A 2008 California Special with EVERYTHING stickers for $35500.
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Old Sep 30, 2008 | 09:51 AM
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Whats Ford so exited about it for? Its just a refresh.
GT40 2: Really! Same engine. Same brakes. Same suspension. Same transmissions. All good--but so they were when they were introduced in 2005...

With the possible exception of the 4.6L having the Bullitt engine upgrades, is there one single performance upgrade in the 2010 models??

Greg "Eights" Ates
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Old Sep 30, 2008 | 09:51 AM
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He was joking... hence the smiley...

Or was he talking about a fully loaded vert...hrmmm
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