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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by narphenal
Thats what I was thinking just based on the nature of a panhard bar.

Do you have an opinion on Watts vs Panhard?
I know you are directing your Q to TJ but...With a panhard bar you have bump steer...zero with the Watts link. IMO unless you are going racing a Watts link is not worth the cost.


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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 01:48 PM
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Yeah it really depends on your goal ... and what you are looking to do with your car. A lot more cars come with the phb for daily use then the Watts Link.

A Watt’s Linkage is far superior to a Panhard Bar suspension. A Watt’s Linkage is used as the lateral positioning element in a multi-link suspension where the other links do not provide any (or minimal) lateral positioning. It replaces the Panhard Bar that was added when Ford re-designed the suspension with the 2005 model year and made the trailing arms parallel with the length of the chassis. When all of the trailing arms were made parallel, they no longer provided lateral (side-to-side) positioning by themselves (as they did on the Satchell Link design of the Fox/SN95)

I took this from an article that we did ... but it pretty much sums it up.

You can read the entire article here:

http://www.steeda.com/blog/2013/08/s...ng-watts-link/

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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by tj@steeda
The panhard bar and overall rear suspension setup is the same whether it is a GT, GT500, Brembo, Non Brembo, etc. When you lower the car you can visually see the offset, in fact if you have wider than stock wheels and tires in the back, you can easily see the difference without measuring if you look at it before and after lowering. The rear does shift more when lowered. Best Regards, TJ
This is true that all set ups are the same in design, but the current state of the rear is different on all of these models because stock ride height varies. If you are lowering .75" or less, a panhard bar will gain you stiffer bushings and that it. Even at 1" or 1.25" the amount of shift is barely visible without adjusting.

Originally Posted by narphenal
Thats what I was thinking just based on the nature of a panhard bar. Do you have an opinion on Watts vs Panhard?
Watts link is a completely different animal. It shouldn't even be in the conversation unless you plan on using the car primarily or exclusively for racing.
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 07:00 PM
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I'm planning the Eibach pro prings. From what I have been able to tell throughout the years and having talked to a bunch of people throughout my time with cars, the top companies like eibach, steeda, and a few other are all their individual drop height. So from what I have been told, look at pictures and decided which drop you think looks the best because in regards to the street they are all going to ride better than stock.
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Old Feb 23, 2014 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by SterlingGrayGT
I'm planning the Eibach pro prings. From what I have been able to tell throughout the years and having talked to a bunch of people throughout my time with cars, the top companies like eibach, steeda, and a few other are all their individual drop height. So from what I have been told, look at pictures and decided which drop you think looks the best because in regards to the street they are all going to ride better than stock.
You'd be surprised that those top 10 spring companies use the same 3 companies to actually make the springs to their specs. That being said, ride height and spring rate are far more important than brand. You want to understand what different heights and rates will do to your cars dynamics, figure out what you want, then find a spring that matches that.

Eibach for example is a quality spring. But the ride becomes very harsh. For some yes that could be "better" than stock. Others just looking for the look from the picture might be disappointed.

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Old Feb 23, 2014 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by typesredline
Eibach for example is a quality spring. But the ride becomes very harsh. For some yes that could be "better" than stock. Others just looking for the look from the picture might be disappointed.
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The ride with Eibach Pro springs will not be 'very harsh', as you state above. However, the ride with Eibach Sportline springs or Eibach R2 coil-overs will be very harsh. The Eibach Pro series will be firm, at worst. Never harsh.
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Old Feb 23, 2014 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by PJRManagement
--- The ride with Eibach Pro springs will not be 'very harsh', as you state above. However, the ride with Eibach Sportline springs or Eibach R2 coil-overs will be very harsh. The Eibach Pro series will be firm, at worst. Never harsh.
^this, I've actually used Eibach Pro springs on my '12 mustang and while it was a little stiffer than stock it was NOT harsh.
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Old Feb 23, 2014 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by PJRManagement
--- The ride with Eibach Pro springs will not be 'very harsh', as you state above. However, the ride with Eibach Sportline springs or Eibach R2 coil-overs will be very harsh. The Eibach Pro series will be firm, at worst. Never harsh.
My error. I thought I referenced the sportlines as the harsher ones.
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