which is the best for the street thanks

 

Really these two are about the same. They will ride about the same also. Are you replacing the Shocks & Struts? The pro-kit will drop a little more in the rear than the Steeda sports pretty much leveling the car if thats what you want.

 

You will be very happy with the Steeda springs.

We make our springs specifically for the Mustang, Focus & Fusion ... where as ... other companies make springs for many, many vehicles. We have ours dialed in for a great ride on and off the street.

You can send me an email at tim@steeda.com if you would like to some additional support.

Best Regards,

TJ

 

other things that are recommended to lower the car

 

I would recommend at least upgrading the shocks, struts and strut mounts to avoid wearing out the stockers later on down the road. And also an adjustable panhard bar to re-center the rear end. Tim from Steeda can definitely help you out.

 

pressman43, have you upgraded your shocks, struts & mounts yet? If so what did you go with? The reason that I ask is, that I had a very enlighting conversation with Sam Strano yesterday, on this very topic.

 

thanks for your help

 

I haven't yet but when I do this spring I'm going with Steeda Sport springs and their shocks, struts, mounts and PH bar. I had this set up on a previous Mustang and I loved the feel.

 

When I spoke with Sam yesterday, I told him that I was looking to put Steeda sport springs & Koni sports on my car, plus switch to a watts link, to avoid going with an adjustable pan hard bar. He informed my that the Brembo cars bodies are already off set & that just the installation of the dampers & springs, would center the body to the axle without touching the stock pan hard bar. That blew me away! I had always believed what I'd read about centering your axle but, that's not the case at all. The axle doesn't move, the body of your vehicle does. Here is a guy that could've rung me up for an adjustable pan hard bar at the least & a watts link at the top end. Instead he spends nearly 40 minutes explaining some of the intricacies of the S197 suspension & talks me out of spending money. Give it some consideration before spending a bundle on your suspension.

 

Thanks for sharing that info. I'll be sure to take some measurements before and after the shock and spring install to see where it lands.

 

I'd do steeda over eibach. Eibach makes some good stuff but steeda springs are among the best for the s197.

 

BMR ftw

 

So if I have a Track Pack car, all I need is a set of springs, shocks, and struts, no panhard needed?

 

If you have a track pack car with fairly low mileage just go with springs, you already have good shocks and struts + some. Bye the way I already had an ajustable panhard but really didn't need it.

 

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Careful here...generally speaking...if you upgrade to performance springs, and they are progressive springs (meaning that the rate increases with compression), then you will want to upgrade your OEM struts and shocks, because while the OEM parts are good, they are not made to work with your performance springs over time. As for Panhard Bar, if your rear end does not shift too much, then the stock one is fine. However, if it does shift to the point where you don't like the way it looks, then you may upgrade to an aftermarket adjustable PHB. It's a personal taste thing. Plus you'll get the added benefit of performance bushings with an aftermarket PHB versus rubber for OEM - which may aid in handling a little. As for a Watts set-up, that takes things to a serious level, and if you are not tracking your car, it is overkill.

 

This. After careful consideration I went with springs and dampers for the same reason…I wanted the spring/damper package to be engineered together for best performance. Lowering the car will also likely mean you will need adjustable camber plates. I also went with very wide wheels which meant I had to buy a lateral locating link (I would have anyway since the rear end was badly shifted from the factory). I went with a Panhard rod for street use. If I was going racing my choices all around would have been different but in this case I’m completely satisfied with the compromises the Steeda Sport spring/damper package and Panhard rod gave me for all around best use. The take-away is, there is no one size fits all answer. I would never say one set up was better than another or that an adjustable lateral locating link is not required…

Regards,
John

 

Right now, I am thinking about completely redoing the suspension before I even think about wheels, because it is one of those things where it is just easier to do it all at once.

At first I was just looking at Shocks, Struts, and Springs, but the more I looked into it, I think I might just do it all at the same time.

After looking into a bunch of different setups, I am really looking at the Vorshlag-Bilstein Setup, along with the Whiteline Panhard bar and brace, then once I get that done, follow up with Whiteline Sway Bars and Control Arms.

While this setup is probably overkill, I'm a fan of doing it right the first time, and the whole "Buy once, Cry once" mantra.

 

I agree, my steeda sports stiffen up the ride little, just enough to still have a comfortable ride.

 

The panhard bar and overall rear suspension setup is the same whether it is a GT, GT500, Brembo, Non Brembo, etc. When you lower the car you can visually see the offset, in fact if you have wider than stock wheels and tires in the back, you can easily see the difference without measuring if you look at it before and after lowering. The rear does shift more when lowered.

Best Regards,

TJ

 

Thats what I was thinking just based on the nature of a panhard bar.

Do you have an opinion on Watts vs Panhard?