Current Life Cycle Ends in 2011?
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Reduced the dumb diaper, added the tunnel affect.
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"If the rear isn't "fixed" I still wouldn't buy it... "
https://themustangsource.com/showthr...ghlight=steeda
"If the rear isn't "fixed" I still wouldn't buy it... "
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I am sure I am going to ruffle some feathers with this comment, and I realize that there are always exceptions to every generalization, but I would argue that most of those who have been the most passionate about their criticisms of the 2010 design are people who have only recently jumped on the Mustang bandwagon with the success of the S197.
I would say that more long term Mustang owners and those that have owned more than one design have learnt to appreciate all of the various iterations of the car over the years (both good and not so good). I think there are some people who are a bit too faithful to the 05/09 design because it is all they are familiar with rather than others who have owned and had time to become appreciative of a number of different years/designs.
If you want to see some bad tail lights, try the 71-73, the 74-78 or the 87-93 GT "cheesegrater" designs! They all make the rear of the 2010 look like a piece of fine art!
I would say that more long term Mustang owners and those that have owned more than one design have learnt to appreciate all of the various iterations of the car over the years (both good and not so good). I think there are some people who are a bit too faithful to the 05/09 design because it is all they are familiar with rather than others who have owned and had time to become appreciative of a number of different years/designs.
If you want to see some bad tail lights, try the 71-73, the 74-78 or the 87-93 GT "cheesegrater" designs! They all make the rear of the 2010 look like a piece of fine art!
But due to my roots in high school in a '65 2+2, I let all those oddball, jimmy square box, un-mustang looking Mustangs go by me all those years until the S197 finally came along to recapture the magic - shark nose, hockey stick, quarter windows, etc.
The Mustang styling has its own uniqueness but the '10 designers added too much of the Japa Euro Camaro morph - and that Honda rear end.
No offense to anyone. IMO
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Reduced the dumb diaper, added the tunnel affect.
https://themustangsource.com/showthr...ghlight=steeda
"If the rear isn't "fixed" I still wouldn't buy it... "
https://themustangsource.com/showthr...ghlight=steeda
"If the rear isn't "fixed" I still wouldn't buy it... "
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Well it is true that I'm biased because the 08 Bullitt in Dark Highland Green is well... the best Mustang ever!
But due to my roots in high school in a '65 2+2, I let all those oddball, jimmy square box, un-mustang looking Mustangs go by me all those years until the S197 finally came along to recapture the magic - shark nose, hockey stick, quarter windows, etc.
The Mustang styling has its own uniqueness but the '10 designers added too much of the Japa Euro Camaro morph - and that Honda rear end.
No offense to anyone. IMO
But due to my roots in high school in a '65 2+2, I let all those oddball, jimmy square box, un-mustang looking Mustangs go by me all those years until the S197 finally came along to recapture the magic - shark nose, hockey stick, quarter windows, etc.
The Mustang styling has its own uniqueness but the '10 designers added too much of the Japa Euro Camaro morph - and that Honda rear end.
No offense to anyone. IMO
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So, if you were Ford, you would have just left the 2005-2009 styling indefinitely?? You have to go somewhere, and you can't do full-on retro forever! It's been said before, but I think the new 'Stang definitely appeals to a younger demographic which, IMO, isn't a bad thing.
But that's me. Each to his own. I put my money where I wanted it and I wish the best to the 10 owners.
PS: Then there's the current post crash threads:
05-09 Rocks!! Disappointed in 2010
https://themustangsource.com/showthread.php?p=5754412#post5754412
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I understand Ford wants/needs to refreshen every so many years. I just don't agree with some of what they did with the '10.
But that's me. Each to his own. I put my money where I wanted it and I wish the best to the 10 owners.
PS: Then there's the current post crash threads:
05-09 Rocks!! Disappointed in 2010
https://themustangsource.com/showthread.php?p=5754412#post5754412
But that's me. Each to his own. I put my money where I wanted it and I wish the best to the 10 owners.
PS: Then there's the current post crash threads:
05-09 Rocks!! Disappointed in 2010
https://themustangsource.com/showthread.php?p=5754412#post5754412
Again, IMO, just because you're the loudest and complain the most, it doesn't mean you're in the majority... or right.
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So, if you were Ford, you would have just left the 2005-2009 styling indefinitely?? You have to go somewhere, and you can't do full-on retro forever! It's been said before, but I think the new 'Stang definitely appeals to a younger demographic which, IMO, isn't a bad thing.
For me, the interior of the 2005 did more to keep me out of the early S197 Mustang than anything else, and with the massive improvement on this front for 2010 I suddenly started taking a much closer look. Still, knowing that better engines are coming in the 2011 model year I wont seriously start thinking about buying before then.
In fact, I think the 2011 model year cars appear likely to be much more competitive overall and I look for sales to rise by a meaningful margin when that model debuts.
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I implore you to read some of those posts, as there are several who really like the car. Just because said folk don't inundate these forums with post after post, thread after thread with "love," doesn't really prove anything, IMO, let alone that the 2010 as a whole is an utter failure.
Again, IMO, just because you're the loudest and complain the most, it doesn't mean you're in the majority... or right.
Again, IMO, just because you're the loudest and complain the most, it doesn't mean you're in the majority... or right.
btw, Sorry about misquoting the Q. The Steeda Q hasn't shown its butt yet. I confused it with the Saleen. But I saw you picked up on the Saleen S281 with the modified rear end.... I like it better than the stock 10.
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I'll take the Saleen lower rear facsia with the Roush nose and GT500 19" wheels in kona blue powered by a 6.3L DOHC VVT V10 based off the coyote backed up by an M6 and 3.73 cogged rear along with whatever the Ford guys did to make the Boss 351 V10 mule sound so bad ****! <--- btw, does anybody have a good sound clip of that car anymore?
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[QUOTE=cdynaco;5754445]Well it is true that I'm biased because the 08 Bullitt in Dark Highland Green is well... the best Mustang ever!
Except the '09 is just a little better.
This '09 is my 9th mustang, so obviously I've liked a few along the way. I could have ordered a '10 in April when I got the bullitt, but the money I saved bought the supercharger and I'd wanted one of those for about 15 years. I really like the looks of the new car, but I think I'm finally ready to settle down with the bullitt. When I tell my wife this, she just rolls her eyes 
cause she's heard it before. Can't blame her really, cause the boss has always been my favorite. 
Except the '09 is just a little better.I also disagree. I think the 2010 has been very well received outside of a few very "vocal" individuals who don't like the rear (although I think most have learnt to love it).
I am sure I am going to ruffle some feathers with this comment, and I realize that there are always exceptions to every generalization, but I would argue that most of those who have been the most passionate about their criticisms of the 2010 design are people who have only recently jumped on the Mustang bandwagon with the success of the S197.
I would say that more long term Mustang owners and those that have owned more than one design have learnt to appreciate all of the various iterations of the car over the years (both good and not so good). I think there are some people who are a bit too faithful to the 05/09 design because it is all they are familiar with rather than others who have owned and had time to become appreciative of a number of different years/designs.
If you want to see some bad tail lights, try the 71-73, the 74-78 or the 87-93 GT "cheesegrater" designs! They all make the rear of the 2010 look like a piece of fine art!
I am sure I am going to ruffle some feathers with this comment, and I realize that there are always exceptions to every generalization, but I would argue that most of those who have been the most passionate about their criticisms of the 2010 design are people who have only recently jumped on the Mustang bandwagon with the success of the S197.
I would say that more long term Mustang owners and those that have owned more than one design have learnt to appreciate all of the various iterations of the car over the years (both good and not so good). I think there are some people who are a bit too faithful to the 05/09 design because it is all they are familiar with rather than others who have owned and had time to become appreciative of a number of different years/designs.
If you want to see some bad tail lights, try the 71-73, the 74-78 or the 87-93 GT "cheesegrater" designs! They all make the rear of the 2010 look like a piece of fine art!
cause she's heard it before. Can't blame her really, cause the boss has always been my favorite.
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No offense Charlie, but you sound like the New Edgers who wander into the 05-09 S197 forum on occassion. Sputtering about how Ford's gonna lose it all because they dared change perfection. (says the proud owner of a near-perfect Alloy '08)
As for the unions, well, unions will always vote and lobby and fight for higher pay at the expense of fewer jobs. This is definitely the wrong day and age to choose fewer jobs over higher wages though. An adage about feet and shooting comes to mind.
(says the proud owner of a near-perfect Alloy '08)As for the unions, well, unions will always vote and lobby and fight for higher pay at the expense of fewer jobs. This is definitely the wrong day and age to choose fewer jobs over higher wages though. An adage about feet and shooting comes to mind.
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Reduced the dumb diaper, added the tunnel affect.
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"If the rear isn't "fixed" I still wouldn't buy it... "
https://themustangsource.com/showthr...ghlight=steeda
"If the rear isn't "fixed" I still wouldn't buy it... "
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Enjoy unemployment you zilches. Nobody feels sorry for you. They just make it so difficult to buy American. I won't buy GM/Chrysler because of the bailouts/bond holder railroading/gov't ownership, and now it looks like I'll be passing on Ford due to good old fashioned American greed.
Good call don't use your bank either cause they got Obama money too.
