Brembo DOESN'T come with dual piston rears
1/24/11, 01:33 PM
#21
Banned
Join Date: June 11, 2010
Posts: 894
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
1/24/11, 02:07 PM
#23
Banned
Join Date: June 11, 2010
Posts: 894
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
TBH, I can understand why Ford doesn't do it -- A V6 to GT upgrade is a $5-9000 (US-Canada) upcharge ie more profit. That would be like giving away the cow with the milk if you made every GT option available on the V6
1/24/11, 05:23 PM
#25
Needs to be more Astony
1/24/11, 05:56 PM
#26
Bullitt Member
Join Date: September 8, 2009
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 350
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
I believe the topic was "what EXACTLY comes in the Brembo package." OP is looking for confirmation that the suspension is upgraded in addition to the brakes. Everyone has pretty much known since the package first came out that the rears are not single piston.
1/25/11, 05:24 AM
#29
Legacy TMS Member
The parking brake is built into the caliper, dual piston calipers are not equipped for the parking brake. Cars that have multi-piston rear calipers have some other type of parking brake like having a seperate caliper just for the purpose or they use a small drum brake inside of the brake rotor. This would add considerable cost and weight and part content.
So long as they can get acceptable braking performance from the current single piston design Ford will have no incentive to move to the more costly seperate parking brake to allow for the multi-piston calipers.
So long as they can get acceptable braking performance from the current single piston design Ford will have no incentive to move to the more costly seperate parking brake to allow for the multi-piston calipers.
That said, Ford could do much to imporve the appearence of the base brakes overall. The SN95/New Edge cars used PBR brakes and they had a much better finished appearence compared to the TRW components used now which IMO looks like they hired a 5 year old kid to design them using a dull chisel and a block of hard clay.
1/25/11, 10:05 AM
#31
Bullitt Member
Join Date: January 19, 2011
Location: Montgomery, AL
Posts: 257
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Sorry, but a "couple guys on here" trying to glean out of a parts catalog does not work for me. Ford does not acknowledge any suspension component differences. Don't you think they would mention something like that in the advertising? It's very possible that the 2 part numbers cross reference to the SAME part. Also, the 19s vs the 18s DO add a strut brace, perhaps it's ordering ANY 19 inch wheels that also include the different shocks/springs. Like i said, until FORD says so, the Brembo package BS-O-Meter just keeps growing.
But by all means, prove me wrong...PLEASE. It will make my decision to Brembo or not very easy. But heresay, conjecture, and butt dynos aren't doing it for me. The mustang forums are PACKED with threads that start out with "THERE IS DEFINITELY A DIFFERENCE" and 500 posts later, end with "hmm, maybe there's a difference".
Why is there no Ford documentation that says...Brembo package includes XYZ suspension changes?
But by all means, prove me wrong...PLEASE. It will make my decision to Brembo or not very easy. But heresay, conjecture, and butt dynos aren't doing it for me. The mustang forums are PACKED with threads that start out with "THERE IS DEFINITELY A DIFFERENCE" and 500 posts later, end with "hmm, maybe there's a difference".
Why is there no Ford documentation that says...Brembo package includes XYZ suspension changes?
https://themustangsource.com/f800/wh...matter-486829/
1/25/11, 12:11 PM
#32
Mach 1 Member
Join Date: July 2, 2004
Location: Fairfield CT
Posts: 643
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Sam Strano confirms that there are numerous differences in the suspension bits on the brembo pack. GT500 LCA's are confirmed.
https://themustangsource.com/f800/wh...matter-486829/
https://themustangsource.com/f800/wh...matter-486829/
Again, where is the FORD documentation? And why wouldn't FORD come out and say what the differences are? Do you think they are deliberately hiding that information? Or could it be the altered parts did not make a big enough difference for them to hype it? The whole situation seems fishy.
1/25/11, 12:12 PM
#33
Mach 1 Member
Join Date: October 28, 2008
Location: Brookville, PA
Posts: 623
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Yes they are upgraded... but they are still stamped and rubber bushed for NVH. Heavier than the older cars, but still not aftermarket arms. As for are the Brembo cars different with regard to arms, not that I can find other than color.
1/25/11, 02:46 PM
#34
Mach 1 Member
Join Date: July 2, 2004
Location: Fairfield CT
Posts: 643
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
So we're right back to square one. The Brembo cars have the exact same suspension as the non-brembo cars. Like i said earlier, this is how EVERY thread on Brembo package suspension differences ends.
1/26/11, 08:10 PM
#35
Needs to be more Astony
checked it out there is no suspension differences visually between the GT with the Brembo or without.
Also checked the GT500, the lower control arms are the same on the GT500 as the GT, the GT500 does have different shocks and springs then the GTs did.
Also checked the GT500, the lower control arms are the same on the GT500 as the GT, the GT500 does have different shocks and springs then the GTs did.
1/27/11, 10:42 PM
#37
Mach 1 Member
Join Date: September 23, 2008
Posts: 879
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
You don't need the twin piston calipers on the rear. If I remember correctly the GrandAm Mustangs still use the OEM rear calipers, or they did at one time. With the front biased weight of the Mustang the front is going to do 80% of the braking. Also, going with a more powerful brake setup in the rear will have to be setup properly or the car under hard braking will handle awkwardly under the weight transfer.
Dave
Dave
1/28/11, 05:28 AM
#38
Spam Connoisseur
I got هَبوبed
I got هَبوبed
Join Date: September 8, 2009
Location: Sun City AZ
Posts: 9,705
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes
on
5 Posts
I think this thread is silly.. it was a big oops by ford to state the rear has upgraded brakes.. we know it doesnt and that its a error in the package details.
1/28/11, 05:45 AM
#39
Originally Posted by SVTJayC
Well, I guess we can put another one of these threads to bed.
I'll see what I can dig up from some contacts.
1/28/11, 09:54 AM
#40
Mach 1 Member
Join Date: July 2, 2004
Location: Fairfield CT
Posts: 643
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
It's not a suspension "debate". There are no suspension differences. There never were.
It's the $400 tires. it's always been the tires.
Last edited by SVTJayC; 1/28/11 at 10:01 AM.