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Old May 26, 2010 | 01:31 PM
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5S... Six Sigma... Shanin... Quit reminding me I'm at work!!!!!
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Old May 27, 2010 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by FivePointO
Rick@Livernois posted the stock flow numbers on another forum:
He said, "It flowed 311.8 on the intake at .600 lift and 178.8 on the exhaust side at .450 lift."
What do you guys think?
Pretty impressive peak flow numbers, did he happen to post any low or mid lift data? Thats where multi-valve heads really shine.
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Old May 27, 2010 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by MARZ
Six Sigma or 5S?
5S? Haven't heard that one outside of Johnson Controls...
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Old May 27, 2010 | 01:48 PM
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Sorry Bob, thats all he posted on there.

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Old May 27, 2010 | 02:39 PM
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Here is Some 5.0 Info for you!

Enjoy,

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Old May 27, 2010 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by coffeejolts
5S? Haven't heard that one outside of Johnson Controls...
IIRC six sigma is just 5S with another S - Safety - added to the end. I am technically a green belt but I haven't touched that **** in a long time. Isn't it like sort, shine, spank, squeeze and swallow or something like that?

I hate 6S. I hate AirSpeed too, that's the gay version the Navy came up with for us. If I ever hear the word "Kaizen" again...
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Old May 28, 2010 | 01:15 AM
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Thanks for the spec sheet KC.
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Old May 29, 2010 | 12:27 AM
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It's more of a real Hemi than the Dodge "Hemi" lol.

Not bad on the flow numbers.
Any numbers on the the port size and valve sizes and the lift specs when VCT is activated?
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 09:01 PM
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We're getting closer!

We finalized our piston design and we're working on a standard stroke and stroker crankshaft.

Piston specs:
  • Custom design crown configuration for new 5.0 style heads
  • Increased top and second fireland thickness .300+ Top .200 +2nd
  • Standard 1.5mm, 1.5mm, 3.0mm ring package heights with steel top ring
  • Integrated notches allow use of factory oil sprayer
  • Revised oil control/drainback slots work with factory oil spray system and oil control ring
  • Inner pin boss designed around Manley H-Beam style rod
  • Full pin oiling
  • Radiused valve pockets
  • High Compression version (11.5-1)
  • Low Compression version (10.0-1)
  • Livernois Exclusive 2.0 skirt profile (This encompasses many changes, revised shape of skirt, revised sizing and fit points on skirt) Improved design for better wear and durability while also allowing for increased stability.







Regards,

Rick LeBlanc
Livernois Motorsports
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 09:44 PM
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 05stangkc
Here is Some 5.0 Info for you!

Enjoy,

KC
I crave info like this. Got anymore?
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 05:42 AM
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Wow, is that a 2D bar code on the left OEM piston? Is it engraved into the piston?

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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by PTRocks
Wow, is that a 2D bar code on the left OEM piston? Is it engraved into the piston?

N/M...

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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 06:07 AM
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its called QR code it was invented by Denso.

Its a fast reading replacment for the bar code

http://www.denso-wave.com/qrcode/qrfeature-e.html

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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Stinger1982
its called QR code it was invented by Denso.

Its a fast reading replacment for the bar code

http://www.denso-wave.com/qrcode/qrfeature-e.html
That's an awesome feature for QC.
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 08:26 AM
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Stroker crank? How much additional stroke can you fit in the 5.0 case?

I was under the impression there wasn't much room.
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 08:45 AM
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That new piston looks bad-***! Now that you guys have had some time to play with the tuning, I cant wait to see what stronger internals and upgraded valvetrain components can yield N/A. I can see a 8500+ RPM screamer coming...
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 08:49 AM
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That new piston looks bad-***! Now that you guys have had some time to play with the tuning, I cant wait to see what stronger internals and upgraded valvetrain components can yield N/A. I can see a 8500+ RPM screamer coming...
a certain engineer (that comes over to your house all the time and eat's at your BBQ's) says the ECU cant handle that high of RPM, fuel delivery gets all weird as the processor cant keep up with senor data from the crank and cam and they get outta phase

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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Stinger1982
a certain engineer (that comes over to your house all the time and eat's at your BBQ's) says the ECU cant handle that high of RPM, fuel delivery gets all weird as the processor cant keep up with senor data from the crank and cam and they get outta phase
Did this certain BBQ-eating engineer say what if anything Ford was hoping to do about it?
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 09:00 AM
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Did this certain BBQ-eating engineer say what if anything Ford was hoping to do about it?
Some of JScott's famous ribs and beer and oh man the cool things you learn. can not discuss
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