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Old 6/30/10, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by JoshuaEIB
I would have to agree with Stinger on this one. my 3.73 are low enough, with 4.10s i would never use 1st gear for daily driving.

and if it was only a race car i would go with 4.30s.

Yep +1 I should of looked further down the page
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Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr
Yeah, but first gear in the 6R80 Auto is 4.17:1.
4.17 really? Thats just stupid high lol. Those poor autos are going to do a lot more shifting over their lifetimes than previous autos. I wonder how long those lifetimes will be at that rate.
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Man, hopefully that Mustang gets in early- my power steering box on my Explorer just blew a main seal.
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Really depends on what you're going to do with it. I think the 3.73 gears are a great all-around gear. Bump the limiter to ~7500 rpm, put some 26" slicks on it, and you have 4 gears that are about equivalent to a earlier Mustang with 4.30s or 4.56s.

However, if you are drag oriented, can REALLY pound the shifts (ie...powershifting) so that using all 5 non-OD gears doesn't bother you, and are intending to use a sticky tire at the track (ie....15" slick or quality DR) then 4.56s would be a screamer in a N/A car. I, personally, would consider this, depending upon what I eventually do with the car. Would I recommend it to most folks? No way.
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I doubt the car will ever get raced enough to justify the gears being based on racing. I guess I'll have to get the hang of shifting NORMALLY for a change. My Explorer is on 34s with stock 3.73s and it's hard to tell which gear I'm in they're all so tall. Downshifting is a joke unless I go from fifth straight to third or even second. That will all change soon, though- ordering gears for the new axles next week. :rock:
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Aren't the 3:31 M6 cars running a bit faster at the track since they aren't forcing a 5th gear shift. the thing to consider with running numerically lower gears would be to factor in the extra shifts. If the gears aren't providing enough of an increase in acceleration to overcome the extra time spent shifting then its taking 1 step foward and 2 steps back.

As much as I dislike them, these engines really need a DSG to get their full potential. Eventhough the 5.0 is pounding out 390 ft/lbs its missing an extra liter or so that would make using a wide ratio trans and deeper gearing beneficial.

At least for the average guy, in the hands of some powershifting gear banger with preternatural reaction times it might be worth it?????

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Originally Posted by bob
Aren't the 3:31 M6 cars running a bit faster at the track since they aren't forcing a 5th gear shift. the thing to consider with running numerically lower gears would be to factor in the extra shifts. If the gears aren't providing enough of an increase in acceleration to overcome the extra time spent shifting then its taking 1 step foward and 2 steps back.

As much as I dislike them, these engines really need a DSG to get their full potential. Eventhough the 5.0 is pounding out 390 ft/lbs its missing an extra liter or so that would make using a wide ratio trans and deeper gearing beneficial.

At least for the average guy, in the hands of some powershifting gear banger with preternatural reaction times it might be worth it?????
even with the stock rev limiter no shift to fifth is needed
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Originally Posted by bob
Aren't the 3:31 M6 cars running a bit faster at the track since they aren't forcing a 5th gear shift.
Yes. Some of us feel a 3.55 car will eventually take the "bone stock" record, as it won't require a shift to 5th either.

the thing to consider with running numerically lower gears would be to factor in the extra shifts. If the gears aren't providing enough of an increase in acceleration to overcome the extra time spent shifting then its taking 1 step foward and 2 steps back.
Not just that, but there's no point in making an extra shift if you can't run that final gear well past the HP peak before hitting the traps.

As much as I dislike them, these engines really need a DSG to get their full potential. Eventhough the 5.0 is pounding out 390 ft/lbs its missing an extra liter or so that would make using a wide ratio trans and deeper gearing beneficial.
Help me out here.....'DSG'??

At least for the average guy, in the hands of some powershifting gear banger with preternatural reaction times it might be worth it?????
Time will tell.
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Originally Posted by bob
DSG
How would a **** sexy goat help me go faster?
Maybe to distract the Camaro driver with naughty thoughts?
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Originally Posted by BLKCLOUD
Yes. Some of us feel a 3.55 car will eventually take the "bone stock" record, as it won't require a shift to 5th either.
Good to know

Help me out here.....'DSG'??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct-Shift_Gearbox

Pretty slick piece of equiment, just mash the gas and let the computer do all the clutch engagement and shifting for you - not my cup of tea mind you, but I can't argue with the performance they bring.
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Originally Posted by Freshmeat
How would a **** sexy goat help me go faster?
Maybe to distract the Camaro driver with naughty thoughts?
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Tks, interesting read. Probably a bit pricey to add to something like a Mustang GT, at least at this point. Heavy too.

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Originally Posted by bob
As much as I dislike them, these engines really need a DSG to get their full potential.
If the 2014 has DSG I'm getting it
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