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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by bob
Torque management FTW! As others have said its a strategy to help keep warranty issues in check.

To the OP, get a tune and install a gear and just realize you wont have a powertrain warranty after the tune but it should defeat whatever protection strategy is on the car now.

@ Ibnzmonkey, the current V6 (while it might not have the torque of the 3v 4.6) makes as much power as the 05-09 V8s, I don't think the issue is with the 3.7 V6

Funny world we live in when people can say; "Oh, its only got 300 horsepower".
Especially when compared to the muscle car wars of the late 60's and early 70's. These V6's today can have more HP than some of the muscle cars of back then. A 70's Boss 302 "G" code engine was rated at 290 HP.
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 08:33 AM
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I have a manual but I def. don't think my 3.7 is lacking power. It may be different on the Autos but I have no problem getting her to get up and go. Hey OP I would just take it in and have your dealer take a look at it. If you dealer is crap then go to a different one. You don't have to get it serviced where you bought it.
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDivaDanielle
If you have a v6? then you're gonna need a tune. For having all that horsepower the v6 is pretty much neutered compared to a GT. I had a '13 automatic v6 convertible as a loaner one day over the summer, and god did that car suck. I could NOT WAIT to get my own GT back. Not just the horsepower difference, but the cheap top, cheap interior, abysmal automatic with grandma gearing, and yeah, can't even spin the tires.
OP is on a lease and I pretty sure he can't tune it. That loaner had to be a base model cause my premium V6 has the same interior as a premium GT.
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 08:43 AM
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The op doesnt give much info here on what he has. Is it a v6 with 273s or a gt. If its a v6 he can at least put 3.31s in it and the dealer can recalibrate it for those gears since it is an available ratio and wont cancel his warranty. If gears are dealer installed may even keep that warranty also.
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Charles Austin Wimbish
This is driving me crazy. It feels like the engine is purposely holding back power until around 3,000 RPM's. Also, doesn't allow me to rev above 2,000 RPM's when holing down the brake so I can't even peel out. ALSO, when I rev in neutral and put it into gear it waits till the RPM's go all the way down to apply any power. This is really pissing me off that I am being robbed of all this power that I paid for. I am strongly regretting not getting the standard. Is there any way to bypass this without getting it tuned? I am leasing so I don't even think I am allowed to do that.
Hello Charles Austin Wimbish,

Welcome to the forum! My name is Deysha with Ford Service. You’re more than welcome to bring it in to your Ford Dealer to make sure everything is ok. They might also have some pointers for you. Please let me know the outcome.

Deysha
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucko
Adding a tune to the V6 wakes it up significantly, especially in the area of the shift points of an automatic.

Doesn't the GT 5.0 share the same automatic as the V6?


Yes and no. The v6 has a lite-weight version.
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by stupidgenius36
Wow...you're mad because the car won't let you do neutral drops? It's like that to protect itself from idiots doing stupid **** that will destroy it...

^^ this!
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TheReaper
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Yes and no. The v6 has a lite-weight version.
Can you explain?
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucko
Can you explain?
The v6 6r80 has fewer clutch packs than the GT model.

The same thing was done with the 555 in the 05 to 10 models..

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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Ibnzmonkey
This thread is terrible. Also, If you're driving the 3.7 that may also be your problem.
Most ignorant post ever.
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by kcoTiger
Funny, My 500 doesn't have this problem...
Exactly. "Some" GT owners love beating their chests over the timid V6s....then the Shelby GT 500 pulls up next to them and all you hear is crickets. Lol
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Getportfolio
Exactly. "Some" GT owners love beating their chests over the timid V6s....then the Shelby GT 500 pulls up next to them and all you hear is crickets. Lol
More than just GT owners get quiet when a 500 pulls alongside...Camaros, Chargers, etc

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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDivaDanielle
GTs get three modes -- Traction Control / Sport Mode / Stabilitrac-Traction Control.

If you have a v6? then you're gonna need a tune. For having all that horsepower the v6 is pretty much neutered compared to a GT. I had a '13 automatic v6 convertible as a loaner one day over the summer, and god did that car suck. I could NOT WAIT to get my own GT back. Not just the horsepower difference, but the cheap top, cheap interior, abysmal automatic with grandma gearing, and yeah, can't even spin the tires.
My 11 3.7 interior is the same exact interior of an 11 5.0 Gt and absolutely love the interior. I have no issue spinning my tires if I want to so perhaps you don't know how to drive an automatic. Lol. Now the factory 2:73 gearing is grandma which is exactly why I installed 3:73 gears in mine.

I will agree a factory 3.7 compared to Gt's definitely lack greatness. Put a tune, and 3:73 or 4:10 gearing in them on top with long tube headers and off road mid pipe. Transforms the 3.7 into a whole different breed of pony. Lol

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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 01:51 PM
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The torque management system issue that you describe started on the 2013 and affects both V6 and V8 with automatic. Part of the safety built in (just like not letting you do a neutral drop). A tune will override it and allow you to do a brake stand burn out.

Lots of threads across the internet discussing this issue
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucko
Especially when compared to the muscle car wars of the late 60's and early 70's. These V6's today can have more HP than some of the muscle cars of back then. A 70's Boss 302 "G" code engine was rated at 290 HP.
My older Vette only had 250 hp but the torque was at 350 and peaked at 3200 RPM and it was still faster than a new Mustang V6. It is the V8 torque that makes it faster.
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 07:09 PM
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Go to those 0-60 web sites. The v6 with performance package has times better than a lot of the muscle cars from 60's and 70's. Hell, one site had it quicker than certain Boss cars. Plus it gets better mpg and handles better.
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 07:16 PM
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And definitely quicker than a 250 hp vette.
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 07:36 PM
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I had no problems smoking 3.7 cars with my 07 GT.
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TheReaper
I had no problems smoking 3.7 cars with my 07 GT.
Somewhere there's a thread that says: I had no problems smoking 5.0 cars with my 07 Shelby. No offense....Two different animals. Senseless to debate. We are in the same family anyway.
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 08:02 PM
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Their times are actually only slightly better....
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