2011 V6 Rumor
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2011 V6 Rumor
Sorry, meant 2011 mod please fix.
Originally Posted by [URL="http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/members/hoeyhimself-20835.html"
[/url]]he embargo on 2011 V-6 Mustang information will lift at 12am Monday. It looks and sounds pretty good, and by good I mean it will lay waste to the Camaro V-6..
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I think this is the right link:
http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...13/index2.html
Sounds good to me if this guy is legit.
http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...13/index2.html
Sounds good to me if this guy is legit.
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then this will most indeed be interesting. i wouldnt be suprised if it does lay waste to a camaro. expected to have more power yet be about 3 or 4 hundred pounds lighter. isnt the camaro's tranmission still geared like the corvettes?
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Worth noting, there is a 3.15 limited slip axle option for the 2011 V6 Mustang, per the 2011 Mustang Order Banks. Will be interesting to see how the new 6 speeds are geared in the lower gears for launching the car with such a tame final drive ratio.
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If Ford uses the same Aisin tranny as the Camaro, I would expect 4.17 in first gear so even with 3.15s you'll still have more gear than a 2010.
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Thanks for helping out with the link and title guys J Was at work and didn't have much time.
We do need to keep in mind that the V6 doesn't need that kind of HP to be the Camero.
We do need to keep in mind that the V6 doesn't need that kind of HP to be the Camero.
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The potential is certainly there, it's basically for Ford to screw it up somehow, which, hopefully, they wont. Basically, as long as they have a performance option (basically this year's suspension and brakes, along with decent gearing and an exhaust that doesn't sound like a Hover digesting a sock), I think the V6 has the potential to be just as ground braking in its own way as the 5.0.
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305 hp pony car getting 30 mpg.
Posted: 11/30/09
Performance and fuel economy aren’t words you normally use in the same sentence. Not until now, anyway, but with the upcoming debut of the 2011 Ford Mustang, the two words suddenly have a lot more in common than they used to.
Ford will officially pull the wraps off the ’11 Mustang V6 at this week’s Los Angeles Motor Show and it will feature the latest incarnation of the automaker’s new EcoBoost technology. The technology has already rolled out on several other Ford models, including the reborn Taurus SHO and Lincoln MKS, but the latest application is clearly going to turn heads on road and track.
Using EcoBoost’s twin turbo layout, as well as twin-independent variable cam timing, piston cooling jets and polished valvetrain tappets the 3.7 liter V6 powertrain in the 2011Ford Mustang turns out an impressive 305 horsepower, a whopping 95 hp increase from the old 4.0 liter version. Torque jumps to 280, an increase of 40 lb-ft.
But for many, the real news is on the fuel economy front. Despite the massive increase in output, the updated Mustang V6 will be rated at a solid 30 mpg on the highway, for 2011, an increase of more than 15%. In the EPA’s City cycle, mileage jumps from 18 to 19.
The goal, said Ford’s engineer vice president, Barb Samardzich, is to deliver a car that’s “not only fast and fun, but fuel-efficient.”
Those mileage numbers, we should quickly point out, are with a 6-speed automatic. Mileage actually dips a bit, Ford is expected to reveal at the LA Auto Show, with a manual transmission. That may seem counterintuitive but it’s becoming more commonplace, these days, due to advances in auto gearbox designs, such as improved lock-up systems. And with the automatic, the V6 gets a fuel cut-off system that works whenever you decelerate.
Though we’ll have to wait awhile to get a first-hand feel for the 2011 Ford Mustang, the automaker did fire up a prototype during a secret background briefing, earlier this month. One of the more pleasant surprises was the deep, resonant exhaust note produced by the 3.7 liter engine, a sharp contrast to the more grating sound of the newTaurus SHO, one of the few notable complaints about the performance version of the new Taurus.
We’ll be particularly interested in seeing how the 2011 Ford Mustang handles as the automaker is adapting a new electronic power-assisted steering, or EPAS, system. The technology saves a significant amount of fuel compared with hydraulic power steering but, on early applications, tended to create a numb and isolated feel. To overcome that problem, Ford has mounted the electric assist system on the steering rack, rather than on the column. A similar approach has proved effective for several makers, including Volkswagen.
Upgrading the V6 version of the Mustang is a critical step for Ford. The old model used a truck-derived powertrain that lacked the refinement of the bigger V8, which may have been fine when the automaker had the pony car market all to itself. But things have changed since the launch of the all-new Chevrolet Camaro, earlier this year.
The revived General Motors offering – largely based on the classic ’67 muscle car – has taken the U.S. market by storm. As with must cars in the segment, the V6 has become the real volume offering for Chevy, and the more refined package is a key reason why Camaro has been sharply outselling Mustang for the first time in decades.
“We’re attacking a newer customer, a younger customer, and we’re going after Camaro,” said Mustang’s chief engineer, Dave Pericak, adding that there will be other refinements made to the 2011 V6. It will get the more expensive Mustang GT’s better brakes, for one thing.
Ford is being coy with hard performance numbers – though we could hear more at the LA Auto Show preview. But a Ford official noted that not only does the new 2011Mustang V6 have some solid numbers from under the hood, but that the car is almost 300 horsepower lighter than its Chevy competition.
As for what’s in store for the Mustang V8, well we’ll also have to wait and see about that. For now, there appears to be no plan to replace the eight-banger with an even more powerful version of EcoBoost, but as TheDetroitBureau.com reported, a few weeks back, Ford has been looking at adapting the twin-turbo technology to one of its V8s, which could make for a very interesting alternative to the big-block engine in today’s Shelby GT500.
More, we assume, is yet to come.
305 hp pony car getting 30 mpg.
Posted: 11/30/09
Performance and fuel economy aren’t words you normally use in the same sentence. Not until now, anyway, but with the upcoming debut of the 2011 Ford Mustang, the two words suddenly have a lot more in common than they used to.
Ford will officially pull the wraps off the ’11 Mustang V6 at this week’s Los Angeles Motor Show and it will feature the latest incarnation of the automaker’s new EcoBoost technology. The technology has already rolled out on several other Ford models, including the reborn Taurus SHO and Lincoln MKS, but the latest application is clearly going to turn heads on road and track.
Using EcoBoost’s twin turbo layout, as well as twin-independent variable cam timing, piston cooling jets and polished valvetrain tappets the 3.7 liter V6 powertrain in the 2011Ford Mustang turns out an impressive 305 horsepower, a whopping 95 hp increase from the old 4.0 liter version. Torque jumps to 280, an increase of 40 lb-ft.
But for many, the real news is on the fuel economy front. Despite the massive increase in output, the updated Mustang V6 will be rated at a solid 30 mpg on the highway, for 2011, an increase of more than 15%. In the EPA’s City cycle, mileage jumps from 18 to 19.
The goal, said Ford’s engineer vice president, Barb Samardzich, is to deliver a car that’s “not only fast and fun, but fuel-efficient.”
Those mileage numbers, we should quickly point out, are with a 6-speed automatic. Mileage actually dips a bit, Ford is expected to reveal at the LA Auto Show, with a manual transmission. That may seem counterintuitive but it’s becoming more commonplace, these days, due to advances in auto gearbox designs, such as improved lock-up systems. And with the automatic, the V6 gets a fuel cut-off system that works whenever you decelerate.
Though we’ll have to wait awhile to get a first-hand feel for the 2011 Ford Mustang, the automaker did fire up a prototype during a secret background briefing, earlier this month. One of the more pleasant surprises was the deep, resonant exhaust note produced by the 3.7 liter engine, a sharp contrast to the more grating sound of the newTaurus SHO, one of the few notable complaints about the performance version of the new Taurus.
We’ll be particularly interested in seeing how the 2011 Ford Mustang handles as the automaker is adapting a new electronic power-assisted steering, or EPAS, system. The technology saves a significant amount of fuel compared with hydraulic power steering but, on early applications, tended to create a numb and isolated feel. To overcome that problem, Ford has mounted the electric assist system on the steering rack, rather than on the column. A similar approach has proved effective for several makers, including Volkswagen.
Upgrading the V6 version of the Mustang is a critical step for Ford. The old model used a truck-derived powertrain that lacked the refinement of the bigger V8, which may have been fine when the automaker had the pony car market all to itself. But things have changed since the launch of the all-new Chevrolet Camaro, earlier this year.
The revived General Motors offering – largely based on the classic ’67 muscle car – has taken the U.S. market by storm. As with must cars in the segment, the V6 has become the real volume offering for Chevy, and the more refined package is a key reason why Camaro has been sharply outselling Mustang for the first time in decades.
“We’re attacking a newer customer, a younger customer, and we’re going after Camaro,” said Mustang’s chief engineer, Dave Pericak, adding that there will be other refinements made to the 2011 V6. It will get the more expensive Mustang GT’s better brakes, for one thing.
Ford is being coy with hard performance numbers – though we could hear more at the LA Auto Show preview. But a Ford official noted that not only does the new 2011Mustang V6 have some solid numbers from under the hood, but that the car is almost 300 horsepower lighter than its Chevy competition.
As for what’s in store for the Mustang V8, well we’ll also have to wait and see about that. For now, there appears to be no plan to replace the eight-banger with an even more powerful version of EcoBoost, but as TheDetroitBureau.com reported, a few weeks back, Ford has been looking at adapting the twin-turbo technology to one of its V8s, which could make for a very interesting alternative to the big-block engine in today’s Shelby GT500.
More, we assume, is yet to come.
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