2011 Clutch and Shifting Fix Coming
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i dont have a 2011 but i hope if ABC is gonna run a piece it will encourage them to revisit the design with getrag if they have not already. story would sound alot better for ford if they were like "we are sorry, new design coming, replacing all with issues" instead of "we are looking into it and putting some different fluid in it in the meantime" curious if 2012 ppl are seeing this problem. i bet we will know more about what they are doing to address it when the job 2 2012s are released if there has been no big time fix before then. China built or not it looks like something in QC is screwed up pretty bad, apple stuff is made in china and of top notch quality alot depends on how much you lean on your suppliers, maybe ford should get foxconn to build the tranny.
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Ford has got to come up with a permanent fix ASAP, mine is still notchy on the 1-2 shift, but i'm afraid it'll get worst with time.
Ford will be loosing loyal and potential buyers if they keep give us band-aid fixes like they've been doing since it's been brought up to their attention.
I mean having the shifter mounted on the body and not on the trans is asking for trouble! The torque of the V8 under hard acceleration must play havoc with the alignment. Also could explain why less V6 guys are having fewer issues.
Get your act together Ford and face the music. Their is a flaw in our 6M trannys and fix the darn thing will ya' !!!!
Ford will be loosing loyal and potential buyers if they keep give us band-aid fixes like they've been doing since it's been brought up to their attention.
I mean having the shifter mounted on the body and not on the trans is asking for trouble! The torque of the V8 under hard acceleration must play havoc with the alignment. Also could explain why less V6 guys are having fewer issues.
Get your act together Ford and face the music. Their is a flaw in our 6M trannys and fix the darn thing will ya' !!!!
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Originally Posted by SVTJayC
Ugh. I'm not going near one of these 2011 OR 2012 until someone figures this out. Surprise Surprise, more problems with Chinese made junk.
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Oh I'll get vocal about this, my transmission is perfectly fine and an absolute wonder to behold. My coworker who has done nothing but drive manuals all his life thinks its a great factory transmission. Corvette owners have driven this car and acknowledge that it shifts wonderfully. I can't tell you why, but I will let you know that not all transmissions suffer from this. There may be a good number that do, perhaps a bad batch or some poor manufacturing practices in China (big surprise), but I really don't have any troubles here, not even a rattle, and I tend to go to red line at least once every few days, when the weather allows.
So basically what Kona said. The more I look at it the more I think that in my case at least the stiff shifting in the cold is just to be expected, and really it hasn't proved to be an issue for me once I got used to it. This is my first manual so I didn't exactly know better.
So basically what Kona said. The more I look at it the more I think that in my case at least the stiff shifting in the cold is just to be expected, and really it hasn't proved to be an issue for me once I got used to it. This is my first manual so I didn't exactly know better.
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If I am not mistaken, it has not been a direct-mount shifter design since the 2005 model year.
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Oh I'll get vocal about this, my transmission is perfectly fine and an absolute wonder to behold. My coworker who has done nothing but drive manuals all his life thinks its a great factory transmission. Corvette owners have driven this car and acknowledge that it shifts wonderfully. I can't tell you why, but I will let you know that not all transmissions suffer from this. There may be a good number that do, perhaps a bad batch or some poor manufacturing practices in China (big surprise), but I really don't have any troubles here, not even a rattle, and I tend to go to red line at least once every few days, when the weather allows.
So basically what Kona said. The more I look at it the more I think that in my case at least the stiff shifting in the cold is just to be expected, and really it hasn't proved to be an issue for me once I got used to it. This is my first manual so I didn't exactly know better.
So basically what Kona said. The more I look at it the more I think that in my case at least the stiff shifting in the cold is just to be expected, and really it hasn't proved to be an issue for me once I got used to it. This is my first manual so I didn't exactly know better.
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not yet just really busy with work, planning to contact ford customer service and my local dealer in a couple of days...taking a couple days off work. I have already talked to Deysha before i had my fluid replaced and she has opened a case for me, i will have to talk to her again i guess.
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Good luck with that, hope your dealership is comprehensive and helpful about this issue. So much the dealer can do about tranny problems without Ford's consent, and that's if they have a fix. Which they obviously don't for now. Let's hope it comes soon enough.
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i hope so too!
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I have had the TSB done and the box was certainly better in the cold. However it too is getting worse on the shifts again and now has started every now and then to jump out of reverse whilst your moving backwards which it never did before..
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not yet just really busy with work, planning to contact ford customer service and my local dealer in a couple of days...taking a couple days off work. I have already talked to Deysha before i had my fluid replaced and she has opened a case for me, i will have to talk to her again i guess.
Once you make your appointment, make sure you contact Ford of Canada so they can re-open your case. If for some reason they do not re-open it, let me know.
Deysha
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I made an appointment to have mine looked at Monday morning. I have occasional issues shifting from 1-2, but it has been good for the majority of the time. Job 2 2011, 9500 miles on it.
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Are you the same guy who buys nothing but "Made in the US" products every where you go?
Let's face it, you can blame it on the fact it's made in China, or you can open your eyes and look at the big picture of todays global economy. If it wasn't Chinese, then you'd blame the ________ (insert UAW, German, or American final build site) for the problems.
Any time you come on a forum like this, you're seeing the minority. I've read the threads and the ignorance that flows from them just boggles my mind. So many of you seem to think you understand the quality control processes Ford has in place, and until you understand that, are just pissing in the wind. Not to mention, I see more issues with dealer reactions to a problem, than Ford itself. We all know there are crappy dealers, and this issue just accentuates that problem. More people are getting half-assed service for the transmission issues than are getting results.
There were small items changed on the 2012MY transmission that addresses some of these issues, which I'm not going into detail about. Those of you who don't have a grasp on the issue other than people freaking out on here (which it really is) need to calm down and take a deep breath.
Let's face it, you can blame it on the fact it's made in China, or you can open your eyes and look at the big picture of todays global economy. If it wasn't Chinese, then you'd blame the ________ (insert UAW, German, or American final build site) for the problems.
Any time you come on a forum like this, you're seeing the minority. I've read the threads and the ignorance that flows from them just boggles my mind. So many of you seem to think you understand the quality control processes Ford has in place, and until you understand that, are just pissing in the wind. Not to mention, I see more issues with dealer reactions to a problem, than Ford itself. We all know there are crappy dealers, and this issue just accentuates that problem. More people are getting half-assed service for the transmission issues than are getting results.
There were small items changed on the 2012MY transmission that addresses some of these issues, which I'm not going into detail about. Those of you who don't have a grasp on the issue other than people freaking out on here (which it really is) need to calm down and take a deep breath.
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Are you the same guy who buys nothing but "Made in the US" products every where you go?
Let's face it, you can blame it on the fact it's made in China, or you can open your eyes and look at the big picture of todays global economy. If it wasn't Chinese, then you'd blame the ________ (insert UAW, German, or American final build site) for the problems.
Any time you come on a forum like this, you're seeing the minority. I've read the threads and the ignorance that flows from them just boggles my mind. So many of you seem to think you understand the quality control processes Ford has in place, and until you understand that, are just pissing in the wind. Not to mention, I see more issues with dealer reactions to a problem, than Ford itself. We all know there are crappy dealers, and this issue just accentuates that problem. More people are getting half-assed service for the transmission issues than are getting results.
There were small items changed on the 2012MY transmission that addresses some of these issues, which I'm not going into detail about. Those of you who don't have a grasp on the issue other than people freaking out on here (which it really is) need to calm down and take a deep breath.
Let's face it, you can blame it on the fact it's made in China, or you can open your eyes and look at the big picture of todays global economy. If it wasn't Chinese, then you'd blame the ________ (insert UAW, German, or American final build site) for the problems.
Any time you come on a forum like this, you're seeing the minority. I've read the threads and the ignorance that flows from them just boggles my mind. So many of you seem to think you understand the quality control processes Ford has in place, and until you understand that, are just pissing in the wind. Not to mention, I see more issues with dealer reactions to a problem, than Ford itself. We all know there are crappy dealers, and this issue just accentuates that problem. More people are getting half-assed service for the transmission issues than are getting results.
There were small items changed on the 2012MY transmission that addresses some of these issues, which I'm not going into detail about. Those of you who don't have a grasp on the issue other than people freaking out on here (which it really is) need to calm down and take a deep breath.
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1 - Manufacturer location - money goes back there
2 - Final assembly and/or parts % of US content. Employs Americans for work, but money may not stay in the country (see Honda, Toyota).