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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 06:13 PM
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SVT wasn't too successful neither of you were convinced enough to buy one...

jsaylor said it well in post #47 above.
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I always felt the emphasis on the SVT moniker was misguided, particularly since it often came at the expense of more storied badges."
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All of those SVT vehicles.... all 3 of them...
Originally Posted by max2000jp
AMG and BMW M are very sucessful with marketing various models with their badges. Ford was STUPID to kill SVT.
I bought my FORD 2008 GT500 in spite of the Shelby & SVT badges, not because of them.

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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Black GT500
SVT wasn't too successful neither of you were convinced enough to buy one...
Yeah, THAT'S the reason why I didn't buy one....
Pullin' at straws there pal

I bought my FORD 2008 GT500 in spite of the Shelby & SVT badges, not because of them
in spite eh? You bought it because of malice?
hehe

You mean DESPITE?

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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 07:10 PM
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LMFAO Looks like you are the one gasping at straws!

http://dictionary.reference.com
DESPITE:

–preposition 1.in spite of; notwithstanding.

It would help you to know what you are talking about before you start nit picking about what others are saying...




Originally Posted by Boomer
Yeah, THAT'S the reason why I didn't buy one....
Pullin' at straws there pal


in spite eh? You bought it because of malice?
hehe

You mean DESPITE?
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 07:21 PM
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That's one sharp looking interior! I'll be disappointed if we see another SRA on there. There's no excuse for Ford not to give it an IRS. But given the fact that this is a "refresh", it looks as if the SRA is there to stay. Regardless, it'll be a hard to sit out on this one til 2015.

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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Black GT500
SVT wasn't too successful neither of you were convinced enough to buy one...

jsaylor said it well in post #47 above.
"I always felt the emphasis on the SVT moniker was misguided, particularly since it often came at the expense of more storied badges."




I bought my FORD 2008 GT500 in spite of the Shelby & SVT badges, not because of them.
I didn't buy one because there is no new SVT vehicle. The Shelby GT500 sucks frankly. It's way too heavy and I am no paying 45K for a SRA. I will be in the market for a new car in about a year and will be heading straight to my local Chevy dealer, unless the 2010/2011 Mustang is a homerun.

Again, you and Jsaylor's arguement doesn't make sense. AMG, M///, Cadillac's V, etc. are all sucessful at selling niche performance cars. SVT failed simply because Ford didn't invest in the brand. Ford has a tendancy to do this (Lincoln and Mercury for example).
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Black GT500
LMFAO Looks like you are the one gasping at straws!

It would help you to know what you are talking about before you start nit picking about what others are saying...

Yay online dictionary...golf clap.

Actually my definitions/contexts are correct.
To Spite means 'Malice', 'ill will', 'nastiness', 'unkindness', 'grudge'
To Despite means 'regardless of', 'not considering', 'not withstanding'

A dictionary won't tell you how to use those words and in what context.

But carry on why SVT sucks despite the fact that you drive one....

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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by max2000jp
I didn't buy one because there is no new SVT vehicle. The Shelby GT500 sucks frankly. It's way too heavy and I am no paying 45K for a SRA. I will be in the market for a new car in about a year and will be heading straight to my local Chevy dealer, unless the 2010/2011 Mustang is a homerun.

Again, you and Jsaylor's arguement doesn't make sense. AMG, M///, Cadillac's V, etc. are all sucessful at selling niche performance cars. SVT failed simply because Ford didn't invest in the brand. Ford has a tendancy to do this (Lincoln and Mercury for example).
agreed... I love my mustang and the ones before it but if ford doesn't knock this one out of the park I'll be right behind you checking out the other "muscle cars" that will be hitting the market soon. Or just keeping my gt and adding my own "refreshes"
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by max2000jp
AMG and BMW M are very sucessful with marketing various models with their badges. Ford was STUPID to kill SVT.
Ford did NOT kill SVT, SVT is alive and well.

It's just been a little slow the last few years with only one model, the Raptor is supposed to be an SVT, and they have a third unknown vehicle coming out too.
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 05:38 AM
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Vehicles were just not badged SVT in the car name.

The Ford GT, was an SVT car
The GT500...SVT car (it actually would sound sillier... Ford SVT SHelby GT500 Cobra)
I remember when those were originally thrown around, until they just went with Shelby GT5000.
Raptor...SVT...

They did get downsized IIRC, and the Ford GT project had lots to do with that.
That project hurt them financially I recall.
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
All of those SVT vehicles.... all 3 of them...
Four

Mustang, Contour, Focus, Lightning
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by paradigm1220



That's one sharp looking interior! I'll be disappointed if we see another SRA on there. There's no excuse for Ford not to give it an IRS. But given the fact that this is a "refresh", it looks as if the SRA is there to stay. Regardless, it'll be a hard to sit out on this one til 2015.

I am still wary of the head lights. But, I dig the interior. Overall, I will be waiting for a 350-400hp SE(2010MY?) or the GDI V8 for 2011MY.
No way am I waiting another 5 years for the Redesign & IRS. Maybe I will trade in my 2010/2011 for it?
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Evil_Capri
Four

Mustang, Contour, Focus, Lightning
Sorry, let me rephrase, I meant 3 at any given time.
It wasn't like there was a constant flow of SVT vehicles coming out in EVERY vehicle...like the SRT line
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Black GT500


I bought my FORD 2008 GT500 in spite of the Shelby & SVT badges, not because of them.

I'm sorry but I find it really amusing that you express such hatred for the name and badging of a car yet you spent a SIGNIFICANT amount of money to own one....and then complain about it.

So with your statements I can assume that you have completely debadged the car and removed all the offending nameplates and references everywhere on the car? I mean if it is causing you to lose sleep at night and go on internet rants over it....surely you have corrected the situation by cleaning up your own car? I mean it would be somewhat hypocritical to drive around a car with pride and showing it off if the mere mention of the cars name so greatly offended you.....
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 07:41 AM
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...put electrical tape and black marker over all SVT badges
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Black331
Ford did NOT kill SVT, SVT is alive and well.

It's just been a little slow the last few years with only one model, the Raptor is supposed to be an SVT, and they have a third unknown vehicle coming out too.
Let me rephrase that.....SVT isn't being operated in the same capacity as before. The core principles have changed since Colletti left and the group was bascially downsized. The last SVT vehicles were built as well rounded performance cars. The GT500 has one thing in mind and forgets about guys who like to take turns.
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 08:37 AM
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Man I opened a can of worms.
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 08:43 AM
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As a reminder, do not post pictures taken from Jalopnik that have the watermark of @KGP Photography. Place a link only. This is at the request of the owner of the pictures. If you guys keep posting them we will just have to close this link as I (and others I am sure) are getting tired of editing the thread.

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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 08:45 AM
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Keep in mind Coletti did have some input on the GT500 and the S197.

He retired in 05 though, so he started it, but probably wasn't around to see the finished product. (wondering if it had an IRS when he was around )

He actually mentioned that he didn't care what it was called...cobra...GT500.
The car was the star.
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Pwny
Man I opened a can of worms.
Ford did it to themselves. In general, Ford builds cars that the market doesn't want. If they would listen to customers and actually track trends in the industry, times wouldn't be tought at Ford. The future does look bright though in terms of new product.

SVT and the GT500 are examples of recent blunders. Like I said earlier, if the 2010/2011 Mustang isn't a homerun I am buying a Vette.
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by max2000jp
Ford did it to themselves. In general, Ford builds cars that the market doesn't want. If they would listen to customers and actually track trends in the industry, times wouldn't be tought at Ford. The future does look bright though in terms of new product.

SVT and the GT500 are examples of recent blunders. Like I said earlier, if the 2010/2011 Mustang isn't a homerun I am buying a Vette.
Yeah. If I'm not tickled by the new Mustang, I'll be going STi, or Evo X.

Both cars have what I need. Speed and handling.

However, I am feeling good about the new Mustang.
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