Speculation for 2008: Ford and Chrysler to merge?
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As you point out possibly only the name, but ford could use their old name for the Jeep. (and the original name used by Ford before the *****'s effort came to be called 'Jeep') 'GP'
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Maybe the (insert chinese name) car company will buy it - instant dealer/distribution network and access to technology, engines, & platforms that will save them a ton of R&D and/or costs of reverse-engineering to meet US safety standards... blah, blah, blah.
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didnt ford build jeeps back in the day for the war effort?
edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_GP i found a wiki on it...i knew i wasnt insane....but nevertheless, the jeep brand has gotten watered down and more city oriented...sad
edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_GP i found a wiki on it...i knew i wasnt insane....but nevertheless, the jeep brand has gotten watered down and more city oriented...sad
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Ford has a long history with 'Jeep' type vehicles. They don't need to buy teh company to make a better 'Jeep'
As you point out possibly only the name, but ford could use their old name for the Jeep. (and the original name used by Ford before the *****'s effort came to be called 'Jeep') 'GP'
As you point out possibly only the name, but ford could use their old name for the Jeep. (and the original name used by Ford before the *****'s effort came to be called 'Jeep') 'GP'
didnt ford build jeeps back in the day for the war effort?
edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_GP i found a wiki on it...i knew i wasnt insane....but nevertheless, the jeep brand has gotten watered down and more city oriented...sad
edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_GP i found a wiki on it...i knew i wasnt insane....but nevertheless, the jeep brand has gotten watered down and more city oriented...sad
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They can't produce a "GP" without a crapstorm and lawsuit from whoever owns Jeep, not to mention that "Jeep" would still be the established nameplate and most consumers don't remember or give a **** about Jeeps from WW2. If the goal was simply to "out-Jeep Jeep" they could have done that decades ago, this is about harvesting a useful nameplate and niche vehicle if and when the current owner of said product puts it up for sale.
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They can't produce a "GP" without a crapstorm and lawsuit from whoever owns Jeep, not to mention that "Jeep" would still be the established nameplate and most consumers don't remember or give a **** about Jeeps from WW2. If the goal was simply to "out-Jeep Jeep" they could have done that decades ago, this is about harvesting a useful nameplate and niche vehicle if and when the current owner of said product puts it up for sale.
I think you are wrong about people's perception of Jeep and WW2. Jeep today even advertises/sells on that heritage, but you are correct in that there will always be some who are clueless about it.
Buying 'Jeep' would have been a better move for ford than the other purchases made under Nasser....the only one worth anything was Volvo.
We'll see what happens I guess, but right now the whole discussion is moot.
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I dunno 'bout that. GM arguably still has too many brands as it is, including the Hummer brand. No matter how I look at it I cannot find a 'good angle' from which the Jeep brand can be slotted into the GM lineup. IMO the same is a far more natural fit at Ford which is currently off-loading the Land Rover brand and which could further increase economies of scale through deft platform/component sharing with the Jeep brand without seriously stepping on either brands toes and while retaining a semblance of sanity regarding brand diversity.
However, since neither has the money for such a deal I can't see either absorbing the Jeep brand without more being involved in the trade than simple money.
However, since neither has the money for such a deal I can't see either absorbing the Jeep brand without more being involved in the trade than simple money.
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I dunno 'bout that. GM arguably still has too many brands as it is, including the Hummer brand. No matter how I look at it I cannot find a 'good angle' from which the Jeep brand can be slotted into the GM lineup. IMO the same is a far more natural fit at Ford which is currently off-loading the Land Rover brand and which could further increase economies of scale through deft platform/component sharing with the Jeep brand without seriously stepping on either brands toes and while retaining a semblance of sanity regarding brand diversity.
However, since neither has the money for such a deal I can't see either absorbing the Jeep brand without more being involved in the trade than simple money.
However, since neither has the money for such a deal I can't see either absorbing the Jeep brand without more being involved in the trade than simple money.
I agree though, Jeep would be a better fit for Ford, as I said, a better move for Ford than the other purchases made under Nasser. (which are mostly having to be sold off now)
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Was it ever intended to be a viper beater? I cant remeber Ford touting the GT500 as an anything beater. Methinks it was designed to hold onto the crown the Terminator claimed in the pony wars.
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