With my wife's car's remote and key and the stang's remote and keys, I got too much junk in my trunk(pocket).
Anyone seen the integrated Ford Fusion/Mercury Milan integrated key fob?
Does anyone know if it will work on a mustang given the proper cut and install.....?

 

Where'd you find those? Anymore pics? Hopefully KC will have an answer for us.

 

EBAY.
It looks to be the same.....
Get a blank key, cut, reprogram for the transponder, reprogram for the remote, budda bing, budda bang,
One key with integrated remote.....

Hey KC, think of the market for this idea, not only us but the f150, f250 guys, focus guys....etc. I should get a free set for my idea......

 

I'm pretty sure this topic has come up before. From what I remember the Fusion keys will not work with the Mustang. (But dont quote me on that)

 

http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showth...ghlight=fusion

 

There is no reasoning behind that answer......Does it have any validaty?

 

Twice in that post TMS members state that Fusion keys will not work on the mustang. READ

 

I made house, mail box and car key x 4 rides.

Stupid to carry 4 rides keys............

 

OK....
but again, it states it does not work. Not why or I tried or anything. Sounds like an assumption....
You cannot tell me that a company such as Ford, who cuts cost anywhere it can, developed a whole to lock set for the Fusion/Milan.....
Bull$hit.
A buddy of mine has a f250, same key.... I have rented lincolns, mercury's, and other fords during my travels,......same key...

One of the biggest changes, as owners of the Ford Fusion, the Mercury Milan and the Lincoln Zephyr will notice, is there is no more fob to fumble with.
“You used to have a computer chip in the key and a microprocessor in the fob. Now it’s all integrated into the ignition key,” says John Van Wiemeersch, supervisor, Advanced Vehicle Technology for Ford Motor Company. “The benefit to the customer is that it’s a more compact device.”
Key fob technology was developed in the 1980s as a nifty device to remotely lock and unlock doors, roll down windows or arm car alarms. But vehicle security became a key driver in the 1990s, when thefts were costing Americans billions of dollars a year. Then the anti-theft ignition immobilizer was born.

Ford was among the first automakers to use ignition immobilizers, with its use of the SecuriLock™ system on the 1996 Mustang GT. An ignition immobilizer consists of an electronic chip in the key that communicates with the car’s engine computer. When the driver inserts the key in the ignition, the transponder reads a rolling algorithm code on the key chip and relays it to the car’s computer. If the code is correct, the computer starts the car. The code is reset with a different series of numbers each time the key is used.
After the SecuriLock introduction, theft rates for the GT fell dramatically, and today, Ford is a leader in using immobilizer systems across its fleet.
“We were innovative at that time,” says Van Wiemeersch. “We are innovative in terms of our ability to get this technology across our fleet, to be there in volume. And we have one of the most secure systems with the strongest code system.”


Doesn't say anything about a new technology. Basically it states that they combined the Fob and the key into one vs. 2.

 

Calm down. Don't complain to me. All I was saying is that I had seen a similar topic before. I remembered asking the very same question that you posed. I simply pointed you in the direction of the answer I recieved. Check out the fusion key thread that is nine pages long. I agree with you. I would like a different key, the Fusion key is nice, the mustang key is cheap. If you try it and find the previous threads (myself included) were wrong please tell us. Lets let Ford know this is something we all want for 08.

http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showth...ght=fusion+key

 

But I am calm...

 

not to beat a dead horse, but....
What does the gt500 use as a fob?
Same as ours?
If so, why don't we get one of those guys to call the SVT techline and ask them?

 

 

Go buy one and try it for yourself.

There was a big deal about this a few months ago and indeed, it will not work. (Kevin is a stand-up guy, if he says something doesn't work, it probably doesn't; especially since he could have sold the part to all of us telling us that it worked and screwed us over)

If it works for you let us know please! I would definitely buy them if I knew they would work.

 

Dont quote me on this, because this is from memory, but this is basically a summary reason of why the key doesnt work.

Our keys now are two separate units, the key and the fob. To program a new key for our car (if we lose it or want a 3rd), we do some process with turning an existing key and turning a new key so that car adds the new key to it's "database". We can have up to 4 keys.

To program the remote, we do some wierd process again, press the buttons on our new remote, and the car will now recognize the functions from that remote. I do not remember if there is a limit on the amount of remotes we have.

The new key system developed for the Zephyr/Fusion was not developed specifically for those cars. It was developed because people are sick of having a key+fob, and it just so happened that the Zephyr/Fusion was comming out at a time where it was practical to start introducing the new key system to the ford lineup. I am sure that with every major re-design that comes out in the future, the new keys will be used, and the old style will be phased out.

That being said, the new key is not just a fob + a key combined into 1 convenient case. The key "ignition immobilizer" works in conjunction with the buttons now, so to the car, it is recognized as 1 unit, not a key and a fob, but simply a key-fob.

The programming process for this key is similar to the one to program the key for the mustang, however there is no way to program the remote portion of the key because it gets programmed in the same time that the ignition immobilizer gets programmed. This new technology is likely more secure.

 

Sounds like a great opprotunity for an aftermarket supplier.....

 

Thanks for the info Friedmaster.....
I guess my pipe dream is now snuffed.

 

Hmm, The keys look very similar but they are slightly different. I just compared several of our Mustang keys to Fusion keys and the center groove on the Mustang key is just a hair wider and deeper. Also, the Mustang and F-150 are using the "S" style key blanks. Not sure if the center groove makes a difference in key opperation but they are not the same.

 

Or....... you could do this. Put a remote start on each car and the same remote can be programmed by the installer to work on either. You'd still have 2 keys, but you could just leave them out of sight inside the car. It's an excellent excuse to add a remote starter... just tell the wife how practical and necessary it is.