Everyone knows of the problems with the FRD04-AUX adapter from PIE. Victor is working very hard on a fix for this product to allow it to work with our cars and I applaud PIE for making the choice to satisfy their customers.

However, last week I had a "DTE FLI DATA ERR" fuel level low error that brought on the check engine light. I immediately uninstalled the PIE adapter and the error went away. Within three days the CEL reset itself and the error has not come back. I believe that this adapter caused the error because the two wires in the factory 16-pin harness are connected to the dash and the Controlled Area Network. If you read through the service manual, they control a little more than just the dimmer and speed control for the stereo. Also, this info has already been relayed to Victor at PIE.

Today I decided to call logjam and see if I could return the FRD04 and it was not a good conversation. He did not believe me that the adapter caused the CEL. I mean I just fixed my wife’s Lincoln LS last night. There was a DTC of P1572. A brake pedal position sensor was causing the torque converter to mess up because the high mounted stop lamp bulb was burnt out. One light bulb was causing a transmission problem and this guy didn’t believe me that an adapter that is supposed to make the car think that it has a rear seat entertainment system caused a check engine light.

He also would not take it back (it's still within the 30 days) because I had opened the package. He also said that the reasons that I gave him were not good enough for a return (meaning that there was nothing wrong with the unit). Wal-Mart will take back anything and this guy says because I opened the box that the return policy is void (I know it says that on the website, but that's a stupid policy). What are you supposed to do, just let the unopened box set there for a few weeks while you are trying to decide if you want to keep it?

Sorry for the rant. The adapter is still good and a fix is coming, but I just don't want to mess with anymore CEL problems and have now shifted my attention away from the audio and to the engine.

 

Did you pay with a credit card? Frankly, if you can't use it because it causes ECU problems, that REALLY sounds like something that is NOT fit for what it is advertiesed for. Give your card company a call and tell them it doesn't work as advertised and you want your money back, but the company won't stand behind the product. You would be amazed just how flexible companies become when the card companies hold back your payment from a future charge. They tend to decide it's not worth the fight at that point.

 

Well, I filled-out the on-line return application today and also sent the unit back today. It was delivered to my door on September 12th. I put the reason for the return as defective, doesn't work with my car. I never did open the package so I will find-out soon if I get a full refund.

 

I know there policy may sound stupid but a lot of places have policies like that regarding electronics. You might want to see if the manufacturer can work with you and logjamelectronics to get you a refund. I had to go through this mess when the exhaust system I received didn't fit my car.

 

Yeah, I've been working with Victor and am going to wait and see what kind of fix they come up with. It would still be nice to have the option to use the adapter. I just don't think they realized how complex the CAN system is on this car.

 

i left the adapter unplugged since the unit first shipped out. no CEL errors or lights or anything. ALL those wires control are the speed volume function and the dimmer. look it up in the service manual.

 

Believe me, I have been all over the service manual on this subject.

Here's the DTC that came up in the Mustang:

P0463 - Fuel Level Sensor Circuit High Input
Description: The powertrain control module (PCM) monitors the fuel level input (FLI) circuit for electrical failure. The test fails when the signal moves above the maximum allowable calibrated parameter for a specified fuel fill percentage in the fuel tank.
Possible Causes:
· Fuel pump (FP) module concern.
· Incorrectly installed fuel gauge.
· Damaged instrument cluster.
· FLI shorted to vehicle power (VPWR).
· Case ground (CSE GND) circuit open.
· Overfilled fuel tank.
· Damaged fuel gauge.
Diagnostic Aids: Monitor the FLI and FLI V PIDs in key on, engine running (KOER). A hard fault is indicated if the FLI PID is at 25% fill and the FLI V PID is less than 0.90 volt with a non-matching fuel gauge or the FLI PID is at 75% fill and the FLI V PID is greater than 2.45 volts with a non-matching fuel gauge.

Fuel Gauge
The fuel level gauge informs the driver of the amount of fuel remaining in the tank. The fuel tank is a saddle tank design with variable resistance senders, driven by floats, that provide resistances related to fuel height, to the cluster over the communication network. The fuel level is read from each fuel sender via a 2 wire input. The fuel sender provides variable resistance between 15 ohms (empty tank) and 160 ohms (full tank) ± 1% for a forward sender. If the fuel level is low, the resistance in the fuel level sensor is low, causing the gauge to indicate empty (E). When the fuel level is high, the resistance in the fuel level sensor is high, and the gauge indicates full (F). The instrument cluster also turns on the low fuel indicator when the fuel gauge shows approximately 1/16 of a tank of fuel remaining or less.


I removed the PIE adapter, cleared the DTC and it has not come back.

 

I just got one of these errors, DTE FLI Data ERR but also:
Low Oil Error
Lights on Dash would not come on [headlights where in fact on]
Blinkers stop working
Check Engine light on
Track Light on above check engine light
Hazords would not come on
AC would not come on.


I also have a Peripheral PXDP2 installed and noticed it was no longer seen by my Shaker 500. So, I disconnected the battery and the PXDP2 and all the errors went away. I then installed the PXDP2 back and all seems okay.

While I had a number of more errors it does sound like FRD04-AUX issue. Thoughts?

 

junk, dont mess with your car with some electronics known to cause issues. Wait for the aux plug harness to become availabel etc from ford. Talk with KC etc, I bet there getting close to have there aux plug in available. I have already added the satellite, next either nav with aux etc, or new harness etc. Good luck but my advice is get whatever you can for it back. Good luck

 

I got the same peripheral unit, got it at best buy, and also got the same errors about 5 weeks after I bought it so I couldn't return it to the store. I called peripheral and their tech supp didn't want to stand by their product and they bull**** me around for 2 hours.
Finally what I did was on the peripheral unit I cut the constant 12v wire (yellow wire next to the black at the end of the connector) and instead I wired it to a switched 12v source from the pass side fuse box this way every time I turn off the car the unit resets, It has been working now for about 3 weeks with no hicups but only time will tell. I really like the unit so I got to make it work

Erik

 

I just tried this, and plugged it into the radio fuse, but it did not work. It said "no aux audio." Was it the yellow and black wire coming out of the aftermarket unit or the harness going into the back of the factory radio? Also, what fuse did you plug it into? Thanks.

 

I had the smae exact issue with my peripheral unit. I got mine as a christmas present and didnt install it until the spring. After a week of being installed I got the crazy error messages. Took it back to best buy and they returned it with very little problems. Maybe I just got lucky