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Old May 23, 2008 | 10:19 AM
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I know Duncan complains, he's gotten worse about it, but he gets aggravated with those f'n refs. And they all complain and whine and ***** and moan, every single one of them. Wouldn't you? Ginobli is Ginobli. Like West and Paul and those guys didn't flop on occasion. At least Ginobli has the ***** to put his head down and drive the lane.
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Old May 23, 2008 | 10:20 AM
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I don't mind Duncan, he's a good guy and always plays clean, but I really can't stand Ginobili.
I remember him when he was playing in Italy, he was doing the same thing. He keeps falling after every little contact with other players and then shoots 10-15 free throws per game.
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Old May 23, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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I know you're right but he's on my team so its OK. Just like all those Laker fans that would call Kobe a punk or a thug or a rapist if he happened to play on another team. I like Duncan he's a real stand up guy and a great role model, Ginobli is a good guy but the dramatics are over the top. I wish he'd just shut up and play, he'd get more respect then. I've never seen a team that can be so good go so cold so fast. You know its coming, they can't shoot lights out from beginning to end. Oh well I hope they win I really like them as a team and always have since Gervin.
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Old May 23, 2008 | 11:51 AM
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I don't like Spurs because of Duncan complaining after every referees call (no matter who Spurs play against), but I especially don't like them because of Ginobili falling down after every little touch and getting free throws for that.
Couldn't have said it better myself. There aren't plenty of flop artists in the league (like Anderson Varejao, Andrew Bogut) and I really don't like any of them. It takes away from great basketball and I hate it.

Granted, almost every NBA complains, but Tim Duncan is among the worst. He complains as much as Sheed, he just doesn't go ballistic and get the techs. Duncan thinks he has never committed a foul.

I think the main reason I don't like the Spurs is because they are boring to watch and they win too much.
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Old May 23, 2008 | 03:25 PM
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I havent watched an NBA game all season. I think it's terrible, college basketball is a hell of a lot better. I hate the Lakers, and I'll root on anyone that beats them. They should just be called the Los Angeles Kobe Bryant.
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Old May 23, 2008 | 06:29 PM
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I used to be in the camp that college was better. As I have watched more and more of the NBA, I have grown to think the NBA is so much better. The quality of basketball and rules are both superior. If you think that all they are is Kobe, then you certainly haven't watched the NBA this year.
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Old May 23, 2008 | 10:41 PM
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Well refs can't be blamed for tonight that's for sure. The Spurs couldn't buy a basket.

101-71 Final. Ouch.

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Old May 23, 2008 | 10:45 PM
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Ouch! Stopped watching when 37-37 became 46-37 at halftime. Should have won the other night and it'd be 1-1. Now its 0-2 and looking really grim! Oh well I'd rather lose than have Kobe on my team.
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Old May 25, 2008 | 12:04 AM
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i love all the laker hate in here. its gonna make it that much sweeter when they finish off whats left of the defending champ spurs. then all you guys will have left is your excuses,"Kobe is a ball hog!" "The refs cheated!" etc, etc.

The bottom line is the refs make bad calls both ways everygame. the better team finds a way to play through it.
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Old May 25, 2008 | 12:09 AM
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Kobe is Kobe. One classy guy. You only like him because he's on your team. So enjoy it while you can, because I'd rather lose with pride than win with Kobe. I can easily live without he NBA.
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Old May 25, 2008 | 12:27 AM
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i love how you can make judgements about a person you've never even met before.
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Old May 25, 2008 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by stangfoeva
i love all the laker hate in here. its gonna make it that much sweeter when they finish off whats left of the defending champ spurs. then all you guys will have left is your excuses,"Kobe is a ball hog!" "The refs cheated!" etc, etc.

The bottom line is the refs make bad calls both ways everygame. the better team finds a way to play through it.
Typical Laker fan.

I actually have grown to kinda like Kobe as a person that really dislikes the Lakers. I still don't root for him per se, but I respect how great of a player he is and how he has actually become a pretty good teammate.
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Old May 25, 2008 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by stangfoeva
The bottom line is the refs make bad calls both ways everygame. the better team finds a way to play through it.
Yeah, right.

When was the last time some other team got 27 free throws in the 4th quarter?

I pretty much stopped watching most of the NBA games because of the Lakers (I only watch games when Jazz, Hornets and Warriors play).

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Old May 25, 2008 | 02:20 PM
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Typical Laker fan.

I actually have grown to kinda like Kobe as a person that really dislikes the Lakers. I still don't root for him per se, but I respect how great of a player he is and how he has actually become a pretty good teammate.
well at least you can respect his ability on the court. Thats fine if you dont like the team, if you actually have a reason. but i just hate when people say "I hate the Lakers cuz the refs cheat and they win too much!" its just stupid.

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Yeah, right.

When was the last time some other team got 27 free throws in the 4th quarter?

I pretty much stopped watching most of the NBA games because of the Lakers (I only watch games when Jazz, Hornets and Warriors play).
well its been a while since a team has choked in a series as badly as the Queens did that year. When you get over the foul limit very early in the quarter, and you keep fouling, its easy to put them on the line 27 times.

At the end of that Laker run I did kind of feel badly for the Kings cuz the Lakers ruined their chances of getting a ring. The Kings just couldnt get over the hump because two of their best players were notorius for going away in the clutch. Im talking about C. Web and Peja. Remember overtime in Game 7? If i remember correctly one of Peja's threes hit all backboard.

and if you dont believe me, look at the Game 7 footage from this year hornets/spurs cuz he did it again lol
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Old May 25, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Star
When was the last time some other team got 27 free throws in the 4th quarter?
Probably Dwyane Wade back when they beat the Mavs in the finals. I have never seen such one-sided refereeing.

My hatred of the Lakers stems from the run they made with Kobe/Shaq. Shaq completely screwed over Orlando and I can never forgive him for that. I developed a hatred of the Lakers then that I doubt they will ever break free from.

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Old May 25, 2008 | 05:09 PM
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well its been a while since a team has choked in a series as badly as the Queens did that year. When you get over the foul limit very early in the quarter, and you keep fouling, its easy to put them on the line 27 times.

At the end of that Laker run I did kind of feel badly for the Kings cuz the Lakers ruined their chances of getting a ring. The Kings just couldnt get over the hump because two of their best players were notorius for going away in the clutch. Im talking about C. Web and Peja. Remember overtime in Game 7? If i remember correctly one of Peja's threes hit all backboard.

and if you dont believe me, look at the Game 7 footage from this year hornets/spurs cuz he did it again lol
If Lakers didn't had help from referees there wouldn't be Game 7. Kings would've won game 6 and go to the finals.

Or how about game 4 when at the end of 2nd quarter Samaki Walker hit a 3 point shot after time run out? At the end Lakers won by 1 meaning that shot did decide a winner.

Do I even need to mention Shaq breaking Bobby Jackson's arm and refs didn't even call a foul?
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Old May 25, 2008 | 05:11 PM
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well at least you can respect his ability on the court. Thats fine if you dont like the team, if you actually have a reason. but i just hate when people say "I hate the Lakers cuz the refs cheat and they win too much!" its just stupid.
Hating Lakers because refs help them all the time is not a reason to hate them?

Sorry you feel that way, but that's exactly why I hate them.
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Old May 25, 2008 | 05:44 PM
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Hating Lakers because refs help them all the time is not a reason to hate them?

Sorry you feel that way, but that's exactly why I hate them.
no its not a good reason because the refs calls are subjective. believe it or not i think that the refs calls are against the lakers most of the time. Kobes jersey being ripped off of him by bobby jackson years ago in the Lakers-Kings battles is just one example. Or the dozens of non calls that okur and boozer got away with on Gasol in the last series.

My point is the refs suck both ways. Everybody knows it but no one wants to admit it. Now you said you hate the spurs too so you should really be indifferent right now cuz the lakers-kings rivalry is over.
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Old May 25, 2008 | 06:43 PM
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Refs sucks both ways, but not equally. I see calls called on whoever guards Bryant (and O'Neal when he was with Lakers) that would never be called on most of NBA players.

I don't like Spurs for different reasons, but I will never call them what I will always call Lakers - CHEATERS. Spurs will always have my respect, but Lakers never will, no matter what they do.

Kings - Lakers rivalry might be over, but one thing hasn't changed and that is the fact that Lakers still have a big help from referees. They had it in all 3 home games against Jazz and they had it in game 1 against Spurs.
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Old May 25, 2008 | 09:11 PM
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Dam Ginobli!
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