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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 07:34 AM
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I'm curious to see if everyone who was planning on purchasing a next generation Cobra, is still planning on getting one, if IRS is not offered. It doesn't seem likely that IRS is going to be offered in the near future, from what has been "reported". Your responses are very appreciated.
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 07:42 AM
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If it's going to make it lighter and cost a bunch less, then it's fine with me.
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 08:10 AM
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I want the most I can get at the most affordable price. I would prefer to have IRS, but, in reality, it probably won't stop me. I will look at the entire package once it is revealed and decide then. The motor is my #1 priority, then suspension. I will only track the car at the occasional SVTOA event. At my skill level, I probably won't be pushing the limits of the car anyway. Otherwise, it will be a toy that I enjoy on nice, sunny days cruising around listening to the roar of the V8 and the whine os the SC.

If I decide I want more out of the suspension, Kenny Brown's shop is about 45 minutes from my house.
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by crazyhorse@February 15, 2005, 10:13 AM
I want the most I can get at the most affordable price. I would prefer to have IRS, but, in reality, it probably won't stop me. I will look at the entire package once it is revealed and decide then. The motor is my #1 priority, then suspension. I will only track the car at the occasional SVTOA event. At my skill level, I probably won't be pushing the limits of the car anyway. Otherwise, it will be a toy that I enjoy on nice, sunny days cruising around listening to the roar of the V8 and the whine of the SC.

If I decide I want more out of the suspension, Kenny Brown's shop is about 45 minutes from my house.
Edit: Wow, not sure how that happened. It quoted my previous post. Must be Gremlins (not the AMC kind).
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 08:42 AM
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Depends on the price. Given the figures being thrown, I see it as a step backwards if the IRS is dropped in favor of a live axle. For a 40K to 45K vehicle, a live axle simply doesn't cut it, especially when the entry price for a a 2003 Cobra with IRS was mid 30's.

It's kind of funny, at the dealership I work at, we give out a DVD called the Truth About Trucks comparing the F150 to it's competitors. And they make a huge deal of the fact that for 2005, GM went to rear drum brakes whereas in 04 they has rear discs. Can you imagine the chuckles from the other side if the next gen Cobra comes with a live axle?

No...if the price tag is 40,000 plus and IRS is not offered, then it's a big no for me. I'll invest the money on my 66 Fastback and a GT40 replica.
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 09:01 AM
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i have my mind set on a 2007 SVT Cobra coupe, i would prefer the IRS, but a live axle will not stop me from buying one
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 10:22 AM
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No a live axle wouldn't deter me from purchasinga Cobra, fat tires and big ol' torque and horsepower numbers are enough and as long as it can get to the end of the 1/4 faster than more expensive cars and destroy the same from stop light to stop light

Razor sharp ultra high speed handling would be a secondary consideration as well as a supple ride (Name one group of car nuts that will consistently over pressurize thier tires because it feels and "handles" better and chances are they are mustang guys)

Beside SRA is iconclasticly refreshing in this age of overdemanding cutting edge value minded techno-*****.
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 01:41 PM
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my wife will be trading her '05 for a cobra and she could care less for an IRS.As long as it hauls butt in a straight line,its fine.No roadracing going on here.Cheap(relatively)mondo horsepower is what Mustang Cobra's are all about.
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by ZRX4ME@February 15, 2005, 2:44 PM
my wife will be trading her '05 for a cobra and she could care less for an IRS.As long as it hauls butt in a straight line,its fine.No roadracing going on here.Cheap(relatively)mondo horsepower is what Mustang Cobra's are all about.
If that were true, how come 99-03 Cobras have IRS? How come the 99-03 are very popular with the open track set?

I mean if high hp straight line performance is all you people care about, then save the money you would spend on a Cobra, keep the GT, and buy a superrcharger.
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by Joes66Pony@February 15, 2005, 9:45 AM
It's kind of funny, at the dealership I work at, we give out a DVD called the Truth About Trucks comparing the F150 to it's competitors. And they make a huge deal of the fact that for 2005, GM went to rear drum brakes whereas in 04 they has rear discs. Can you imagine the chuckles from the other side if the next gen Cobra comes with a live axle?
Actually no, I don't think there will be too many chuckles, word has it the SS Camaro won't have IRS either.
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by holderca1+February 15, 2005, 3:26 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(holderca1 @ February 15, 2005, 3:26 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Joes66Pony@February 15, 2005, 9:45 AM
It's kind of funny, at the dealership I work at, we give out a DVD called the Truth About Trucks comparing the F150 to it's competitors. And they make a huge deal of the fact that for 2005, GM went to rear drum brakes whereas in 04 they has rear discs. Can you imagine the chuckles from the other side if the next gen Cobra comes with a live axle?
Actually no, I don't think there will be too many chuckles, word has it the SS Camaro won't have IRS either.
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An even better reason for the Cobra to have the IRS. Either way though, nobody knows that there will even be a new Camaro. So that's just speculation on a vehicle that for the most part may be a an F-Body fanatics fantasy.
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 02:29 PM
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Originally posted by Joes66Pony@February 15, 2005, 10:45 AM
Depends on the price. Given the figures being thrown, I see it as a step backwards if the IRS is dropped in favor of a live axle. For a 40K to 45K vehicle, a live axle simply doesn't cut it, especially when the entry price for a a 2003 Cobra with IRS was mid 30's.

It's kind of funny, at the dealership I work at, we give out a DVD called the Truth About Trucks comparing the F150 to it's competitors. And they make a huge deal of the fact that for 2005, GM went to rear drum brakes whereas in 04 they has rear discs. Can you imagine the chuckles from the other side if the next gen Cobra comes with a live axle?

No...if the price tag is 40,000 plus and IRS is not offered, then it's a big no for me. I'll invest the money on my 66 Fastback and a GT40 replica.
Given that the Saleen is a live axle and that I have driven it, it's performance, handling, shifting, braking, everything is simply amazing. Don't know how the new Mustang would do w/ an IRS, but for a vehicle for $40K plus, this live axle DOES cut it.

Let the otherside chuckle at what its got, I'll be the one laughing when I show 'em what it'll do.

Thank you for your response. Keep 'em coming.
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 02:36 PM
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Originally posted by slavehand+February 15, 2005, 3:32 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(slavehand @ February 15, 2005, 3:32 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Joes66Pony@February 15, 2005, 10:45 AM
Depends on the price. Given the figures being thrown, I see it as a step backwards if the IRS is dropped in favor of a live axle. For a 40K to 45K vehicle, a live axle simply doesn't cut it, especially when the entry price for a a 2003 Cobra with IRS was mid 30's.

It's kind of funny, at the dealership I work at, we give out a DVD called the Truth About Trucks comparing the F150 to it's competitors. And they make a huge deal of the fact that for 2005, GM went to rear drum brakes whereas in 04 they has rear discs. Can you imagine the chuckles from the other side if the next gen Cobra comes with a live axle?

No...if the price tag is 40,000 plus and IRS is not offered, then it's a big no for me. I'll invest the money on my 66 Fastback and a GT40 replica.
Given that the Saleen is a live axle and that I have driven it, it's performance, handling, shifting, braking, everything is simply amazing. Don't know how the new Mustang would do w/ an IRS, but for a vehicle for $40K plus, this live axle DOES cut it.

Let the otherside chuckle at what its got, I'll be the one laughing when I show 'em what it'll do.

Thank you for your response. Keep 'em coming.
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Thus...I'm not paying 40,000 to 45,000 vehicle with a stick axle. Just doesn't make sense to me.
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by Joes66Pony+February 15, 2005, 3:30 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Joes66Pony @ February 15, 2005, 3:30 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>
Originally posted by holderca1@February 15, 2005, 3:26 PM
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@February 15, 2005, 9:45 AM
It's kind of funny, at the dealership I work at, we give out a DVD called the Truth About Trucks comparing the F150 to it's competitors. And they make a huge deal of the fact that for 2005, GM went to rear drum brakes whereas in 04 they has rear discs. Can you imagine the chuckles from the other side if the next gen Cobra comes with a live axle?

Actually no, I don't think there will be too many chuckles, word has it the SS Camaro won't have IRS either.
An even better reason for the Cobra to have the IRS. Either way though, nobody knows that there will even be a new Camaro. So that's just speculation on a vehicle that for the most part may be a an F-Body fanatics fantasy.
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I was joking, there are no Camaros.
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 02:57 PM
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Originally posted by holderca1+February 15, 2005, 3:43 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(holderca1 @ February 15, 2005, 3:43 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>
Originally posted by Joes66Pony@February 15, 2005, 3:30 PM
Originally posted by holderca1@February 15, 2005, 3:26 PM
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@February 15, 2005, 9:45 AM
It's kind of funny, at the dealership I work at, we give out a DVD called the Truth About Trucks comparing the F150 to it's competitors. And they make a huge deal of the fact that for 2005, GM went to rear drum brakes whereas in 04 they has rear discs. Can you imagine the chuckles from the other side if the next gen Cobra comes with a live axle?

Actually no, I don't think there will be too many chuckles, word has it the SS Camaro won't have IRS either.


An even better reason for the Cobra to have the IRS. Either way though, nobody knows that there will even be a new Camaro. So that's just speculation on a vehicle that for the most part may be a an F-Body fanatics fantasy.
I was joking, there are no Camaros.
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:bang:

Dope slap to me
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 03:02 PM
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IRS or No IRS, I'll still get one, its the all mighty Mustang Cobra feared by many!
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by holderca1@February 15, 2005, 3:43 PM
I was joking, there are no Camaros.
You wouldn't know that by visiting a GM fan site. There are people on those sites that have already declared that the '07 SS will own an '07 Cobra.
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 03:11 PM
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As long as it handles well, the axle can be in a live, dead, or comatose for all I care.
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 03:45 PM
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as long as it outperforms whatever gm comes out with


WHO CARES
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 03:54 PM
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Originally posted by O5GT@February 15, 2005, 4:48 PM
as long as it outperforms whatever gm comes out with


WHO CARES

Because at 40,000 to 45,000 dollars, it no longer matter what GM comes out with, becuase that's not the competition anymore.
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