Aftermarket 2005+ Mustangs Discuss the Offerings from Roush, Saleen, Steeda, Shinoda, and Others

Factory N/A 5.4L 389-HP & 383-LB FT TQ

Old Apr 20, 2005 | 05:35 PM
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Just saw this and thought that I'd share since no one else has mentioned it so far.

Take a look at the engine specs. Look a little familiar? Add a 2.3L Whipple blower to that ! (I think th Shelby 450hp/450tq numbers might be under rated!)

http://www.fpv.com.au/index.asp?link_id=2.174

Ford (albeit in Australia) does produce a 4-speed automatic transmission that could handle the power of a N/A 5.4L (389-hp & 383-lb-ft) maybe they could do something for the automatic fanatics for the Shelby.
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 08:08 PM
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And was does this translate too?

Maximum power (DIN) - 290kW @ 5500rpm
Maximum torque (DIN) - 520Nm @ 4500rpm
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 09:11 PM
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Originally posted by Wolf@April 20, 2005, 6:11 PM
And was does this translate too?

Maximum power (DIN) - 290kW @ 5500rpm
Maximum torque (DIN) - 520Nm @ 4500rpm
388.896406 horsepower @ 5500, 383.532318 ft-lbs @ 4500
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by S197Cobra+April 20, 2005, 9:14 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(S197Cobra @ April 20, 2005, 9:14 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Wolf@April 20, 2005, 6:11 PM
And was does this translate too?

Maximum power (DIN) - 290kW @ 5500rpm
Maximum torque (DIN) - 520Nm @ 4500rpm
388.896406 horsepower @ 5500, 383.532318 ft-lbs @ 4500
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Which is exactly what the Dig-It stated in the original post. I'm not sure why the question was even asked... :scratch:
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 09:51 PM
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uhh, the 03-04 cobras were underrated to 390 but make 380 at the wheels
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 08:28 AM
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The thing to remember is that the 5.4L N/A engine you're talking about has 10.5:1 compression, which accounts for its high output. The supercharged version found in the Ford GT has 8.4:1 compression. Without the supercharger, it would make nowhere near the 380 horse output in the naturally-aspirated Aussie engine. That is to say, you can't just add the horsepower of the N/A version to the expected gains of the supercharger. You have to account for the lower compression.
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 09:38 AM
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how much would it be to import one of those here to the states?
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 09:44 AM
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Put a set of 3-valve heads on that bad boy and I can see a Mach-01 motor for sure. You would give up a bit of hp most likely (noy much), but you would gain some torque too. 370hp and 390ft-lb tq sounds about right to me.
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Old May 7, 2005 | 11:54 PM
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Originally posted by Dig-It@April 20, 2005, 4:38 PM
Just saw this and thought that I'd share since no one else has mentioned it so far.

Take a look at the engine specs. Look a little familiar? Add a 2.3L Whipple blower to that ! (I think th Shelby 450hp/450tq numbers might be under rated!)

http://www.fpv.com.au/index.asp?link_id=2.174

Ford (albeit in Australia) does produce a 4-speed automatic transmission that could handle the power of a N/A 5.4L (389-hp & 383-lb-ft) maybe they could do something for the automatic fanatics for the Shelby.
:nono: As for the automatic, just put one in the car that will handle 600hp and nobody gets hurt . Give me a new 6 speed C-6.
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Old May 8, 2005 | 07:42 AM
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Originally posted by hayburner+May 8, 2005, 12:57 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(hayburner @ May 8, 2005, 12:57 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Dig-It@April 20, 2005, 4:38 PM
Just saw this and thought that I'd share since no one else has mentioned it so far.

Take a look at the engine specs. Look a little familiar? Add a 2.3L Whipple blower to that ! (I think th Shelby 450hp/450tq numbers might be under rated!)

http://www.fpv.com.au/index.asp?link_id=2.174

Ford (albeit in Australia) does produce a 4-speed automatic transmission that could handle the power of a N/A 5.4L (389-hp & 383-lb-ft) maybe they could do something for the automatic fanatics for the Shelby.
:nono: As for the automatic, just put one in the car that will handle 600hp and nobody gets hurt . Give me a new 6 speed C-6.
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Did anyone check the price of that car?

76,550.00 AUD Australia Dollars = 59,426.31 USD United States Dollars

Almost 60 Gs :notnice:
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Old May 8, 2005 | 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by softbatch+May 8, 2005, 7:45 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(softbatch @ May 8, 2005, 7:45 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>
Originally posted by hayburner@May 8, 2005, 12:57 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Dig-It
@April 20, 2005, 4:38 PM
Just saw this and thought that I'd share since no one else has mentioned it so far.

Take a look at the engine specs. Look a little familiar? Add a 2.3L Whipple blower to that ! (I think th Shelby 450hp/450tq numbers might be under rated!)

http://www.fpv.com.au/index.asp?link_id=2.174

Ford (albeit in Australia) does produce a 4-speed automatic transmission that could handle the power of a N/A 5.4L (389-hp & 383-lb-ft) maybe they could do something for the automatic fanatics for the Shelby.

:nono: As for the automatic, just put one in the car that will handle 600hp and nobody gets hurt . Give me a new 6 speed C-6.
Did anyone check the price of that car?

76,550.00 AUD Australia Dollars = 59,426.31 USD United States Dollars

Almost 60 Gs :notnice:
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The C6 coupe starts out at $44,510 and tops out at $56,180 fully loaded, not sure where you got your numbers at.
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Old May 8, 2005 | 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by holderca1+May 8, 2005, 1:22 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(holderca1 @ May 8, 2005, 1:22 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>
Originally posted by softbatch@May 8, 2005, 7:45 AM
Originally posted by hayburner@May 8, 2005, 12:57 AM
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@April 20, 2005, 4:38 PM
Just saw this and thought that I'd share .....

l=http://www.fpv.com.au/index.asp?link_id=2.174]http://www.fpv.com.au/index.asp?link_id=2.174[/url]

Ford (albeit in Australia) does produce a 4-speed automatic transmission that could handle the power of a N/A 5.4L (389-hp & 383-lb-ft) maybe they could do something for the automatic fanatics for the Shelby.

:nono: As for the automatic, just put one in the car that will handle 600hp and nobody gets hurt . Give me a new 6 speed C-6.

Did anyone check the price of that car?
76,550.00 AUD Australia Dollars = 59,426.31 USD United States Dollars
Almost 60 Gs :notnice:
The C6 coupe starts out at $44,510 and tops out at $56,180 fully loaded, not sure where you got your numbers at.
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I just checked the link that was provided and the starting price is $70,200 (Aus). You did realize he was talking about the price of the Australian Ford and not a Corvette, right?
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Old May 8, 2005 | 06:53 PM
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Well he must of quoted the wrong person then, he quoted the person talking about the C6.
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Old May 8, 2005 | 07:20 PM
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I'm guessing he's looking for an updated FORD "C6 Transmission" with 6 speeds, not a C-6 Corvette.

The old reliable Ford C6 (3-Speed) is what came behind all the Big Blocks of the late 60's & 70's as well as most F-Series pick-ups and other large Fords until built-in "Overdrive" became a neccessity for all automatic transmissions.
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Old May 8, 2005 | 08:05 PM
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What's wrong with the T56 6-speed that sees time in the Mustang Cobra, Corvette and Viper?
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Old May 9, 2005 | 06:46 AM
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Originally posted by holderca1@May 8, 2005, 8:08 PM
What's wrong with the T56 6-speed that sees time in the Mustang Cobra, Corvette and Viper?
There is nothing wrong with the T56, this guy is looking for an AUTOMATIC transmission that is as bullitt-proof as the old "Ford 3-speed C6" but with SIX Gears !!

I think the point here is Ford does not currently have a high-performance 5 or 6 Speed Automatic transmission that can handle "up to 600HP" as stated in his post !!

The post he was replying to stated "Ford (albeit in Australia) does produce a 4-speed automatic transmission that could handle the power of a N/A 5.4L (389-hp & 383-lb-ft) maybe they could do something for the automatic fanatics for the Shelby."

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Old May 9, 2005 | 08:22 AM
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Originally posted by orange3.9stang+May 9, 2005, 6:49 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(orange3.9stang @ May 9, 2005, 6:49 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-holderca1@May 8, 2005, 8:08 PM
What's wrong with the T56 6-speed that sees time in the Mustang Cobra, Corvette and Viper?
There is nothing wrong with the T56, this guy is looking for an AUTOMATIC transmission that is as bullitt-proof as the old "Ford 3-speed C6" but with SIX Gears !!

I think the point here is Ford does not currently have a high-performance 5 or 6 Speed Automatic transmission that can handle "up to 600HP" as stated in his post !!

The post he was replying to stated "Ford (albeit in Australia) does produce a 4-speed automatic transmission that could handle the power of a N/A 5.4L (389-hp & 383-lb-ft) maybe they could do something for the automatic fanatics for the Shelby."

Doug
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Okay if we are talking automatics, what about the 6-sp auto they are putting in the Adrenalin? It obviously can handle 390 ft-lbs of torque, I wonder what the max torque it can handle, anyone know?
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