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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 02:54 PM
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Suspension update: strut mounts, sway bars, bmr a-arm support...

hi all...

just wanted to update you all..
i got my car at Diblasi Ford which is a ford that specializes in hi perf. cars especially mustangs..they have PJ saleen, saleen extreme and shelby's on their lot.

right now, they are installing:
1. revised FORD front upper strut mounts
2. bmr a-arm support bar
3. FRPP front/rear sway bar kit
4. getting tokico d-spec/eibach pro's checked out because of noises

I also.ordered:
-Agent 47 Strut tower brace
-Steeda Frame Rails to increase chassis rigidity.

I'll update you when those are installed.

i found out that the bmw Z4 and E46 M3 have torsional rigidity of about 10,000 ft/lbs and S197 mustang is 7500 ft/lbs

i hope i can get the stang close to that...

thanks all....
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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wow that should tighten things up a bit
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by YaoNYC
hi all...

just wanted to update you all..
i got my car at Diblasi Ford which is a ford that specializes in hi perf. cars especially mustangs..they have PJ saleen, saleen extreme and shelby's on their lot.

right now, they are installing:
1. revised FORD front upper strut mounts
2. bmr a-arm support bar
3. FRPP front/rear sway bar kit
4. getting tokico d-spec/eibach pro's checked out because of noises

I also.ordered:
-Agent 47 Strut tower brace
-Steeda Frame Rails to increase chassis rigidity.

I'll update you when those are installed.

i found out that the bmw Z4 and E46 M3 have torsional rigidity of about 10,000 ft/lbs and S197 mustang is 7500 ft/lbs

i hope i can get the stang close to that...

thanks all....
Be careful what you shoot for there Yao. The E46 M3 (E46 in general) is prone to ripping out the rear subframe. The E36 had a problem with rear floorpans cracking. You don't want it TOO rigid! I think you'll be safe though.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 11:33 PM
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Yao... I don't think you will have to worry about cracking the floorpan with the addition of the Steeda Torque Box Frame Rails. And, as for ripping out the subframes, there have been many post on this site about the new S-197 body being strong enough to take the punishment. So, you shouldn't be concerned with that either. Certainly without 500+ RWHP.

I will be interested to know what, if anything, they find out about your noise problem.

You have some nice parts going into you car... I'm sure you're going to be pleased with the car when you get it back.

How do you determine/test the torsional rigidity of a car... I would be curious to know what the torsional rigidity of my stang is.

Bobby M.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 11:44 PM
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Was I supposed to understand a word of ANY of that?
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Glenn
wow that should tighten things up a bit
i hope so glenn! thanks
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by RobK
Be careful what you shoot for there Yao. The E46 M3 (E46 in general) is prone to ripping out the rear subframe. The E36 had a problem with rear floorpans cracking. You don't want it TOO rigid! I think you'll be safe though.
hi robk, that is interesting...i doubt i'll get to that point but i hope to get somewhat close..
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by MooStang05gt
Yao... I don't think you will have to worry about cracking the floorpan with the addition of the Steeda Torque Box Frame Rails. And, as for ripping out the subframes, there have been many post on this site about the new S-197 body being strong enough to take the punishment. So, you shouldn't be concerned with that either. Certainly without 500+ RWHP.

I will be interested to know what, if anything, they find out about your noise problem.

You have some nice parts going into you car... I'm sure you're going to be pleased with the car when you get it back.

How do you determine/test the torsional rigidity of a car... I would be curious to know what the torsional rigidity of my stang is.

Bobby M.
hi bobby,
i hope i get all the noises out of the rear suspension area. it sounded like the springs werent seated right and i heard clanking sounds at low speeds over bumps. SO SO annoying.

thanks for the vote of confidence! i just hope the stang feels and rides close to a solid more expensive feeling car....right now i feel like the body twists and warps over bumps and rough roads.

i actually dont know how they determine chassis torsional rigidity...i just read about the information.

thanks again bobby!
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 12:32 AM
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Was I supposed to understand a word of ANY of that?

hmmm...read it over 3 times and it'll commit to long term memory?

thanks!
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by MooStang05gt
Yao... I don't think you will have to worry about cracking the floorpan with the addition of the Steeda Torque Box Frame Rails. And, as for ripping out the subframes, there have been many post on this site about the new S-197 body being strong enough to take the punishment. So, you shouldn't be concerned with that either. Certainly without 500+ RWHP.

Bobby M.
I wasn't suggesting that this was a possible outcome with his Stang. Just that it's a by-product of a super rigid chassis. It's OK to have some flex and compliance.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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Yao, let us know if you get the noises out of the suspension. I have BMR sways front and rear, CHE upper and lower control arms, and Steeda torque box braces. The car handles great, and some of the suspension noises are gone with all the tightening up, but some are still there.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by JonW
Yao, let us know if you get the noises out of the suspension. I have BMR sways front and rear, CHE upper and lower control arms, and Steeda torque box braces. The car handles great, and some of the suspension noises are gone with all the tightening up, but some are still there.
hi jonw. definitely. my car will not leave the dealer unless it feels solid. im paying top PERFORMANCE oriented Ford tech to work on it...

my quest to make this car feel world class
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