Stability at high speeds?
9/20/05, 07:52 PM
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Originally posted by wild stray@September 20, 2005, 7:52 PM
At 175 his speedometer would be worthless anyhow. He was being paced. I thought that was clear in his post.
At 175 his speedometer would be worthless anyhow. He was being paced. I thought that was clear in his post.
I can read. Motorcycle speedos aren't very accurate as well. If it wasn't a GPS or radar, he wasn't going anywhere near 175.
Also I can post some links that verify the 996 tops out in the low 160s if you want.
9/20/05, 08:55 PM
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If I'm not mistaken (and that's a crap shoot in and of itself) The GT has both a rev limiter (maybe 6200 RPM...correct me if I'm wrong on some of these numbers) And a speed limiter at 143 mph. The drag "limit" is more a matter of physics than an actual component. That is to say that given the aerodynamics of the vehicle (as stock) v. power/gearing (as stock), w/only the rev and speed limiters turned off, the car probably cannot, given unbiased test conditions, exceed 147 MPH. Now throw an aero kit and/or add power and you should easily exceed that mark. As stock, the car just doesn't havr the power to push that car throw the air any faster than 147 mph. Of course there are not to many places out there on the road that would represent an "unbiased" test run. You may be on a slight incline/decline, have wind w/you or against you, etc... All that to say, with a few simple mods (CAI, lower restriction exhaust, tune, lowering, etc...) I think this car will breeze to 150 and beyond...my.02!
9/20/05, 09:43 PM
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It has been my experience that even stock this car won't hit a brick wall at 147.
Throw all the physics equations you want at it, it's just not so.
Those Car and Driver weenies need to get out from behind their calculators and actually drive a car once in awhile.
Throw all the physics equations you want at it, it's just not so.
Those Car and Driver weenies need to get out from behind their calculators and actually drive a car once in awhile.
9/20/05, 09:55 PM
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That may be absolutely true...everything I said about the drag limit being 147, I read on line or in a magazine...probably all quoting the same, and quite possibly, the wrong source. Since the speedo tops at 145, tough to find out anything with any acurracy, I guess.
9/20/05, 10:19 PM
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Everyone sounds like an expert here wow.
"I did Xmph"
"You couldn't possibly because of x and y."
"The Speedo was lying, you liar."
Seriously if you don't believe what someone else says and you have no way of proving them wrong, don't say anything or try and sound like an expert.
"I did Xmph"
"You couldn't possibly because of x and y."
"The Speedo was lying, you liar."
Seriously if you don't believe what someone else says and you have no way of proving them wrong, don't say anything or try and sound like an expert.
9/20/05, 10:36 PM
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Well, I can assure you I was not trying to sound like an expert or discount anyone elses claim. I would have no idea how to calculate drag limits of this or any other vehicle. I only claim to know the basis by which the calculations are made and I'm sure I'm not spot on with those either. I believe it was Ford that said the car had a drag limit of 147, so perhaps your efforts would be better directed toward them. My guess is that there are so many variables they had to have used an average to get the number...just a guess, from a non-expert. 
9/20/05, 10:40 PM
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Originally posted by max2000jp@September 20, 2005, 7:55 PM
I can read. Motorcycle speedos aren't very accurate as well. If it wasn't a GPS or radar, he wasn't going anywhere near 175.
Also I can post some links that verify the 996 tops out in the low 160s if you want.
I can read. Motorcycle speedos aren't very accurate as well. If it wasn't a GPS or radar, he wasn't going anywhere near 175.
Also I can post some links that verify the 996 tops out in the low 160s if you want.
Who said the 996 was stock?? Who said it doesn't see time at the race track?? Who said it's not a full out race bike?? Who said it hasn't been "radared" (at the race track)?? :bang: I guess I should have been more "clear".
That is why I asked him to take a trip with me because I wanted to see what my Pony could do. So go verify all what you want...This post was about high speed stability and I figured that taking my pony up to 175 mph would "qualify" me to post my thought's on the subject.
Like Tony said, I also invite any magazine "wieners" to strap thierself in Natasha and I'll teach them about drag coieficiant....they should go write another article funded by another various advertiser...
9/20/05, 10:42 PM
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Originally posted by wild stray@September 20, 2005, 10:00 PM
Is there any place where it's legal to test top speed on a production car in the straight away??? Have Mustang - Will Travel
Is there any place where it's legal to test top speed on a production car in the straight away??? Have Mustang - Will Travel
9/20/05, 10:47 PM
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Your car is beyond stock in terms of hp/tq, so it stands to reason it will exceed the factory drag limit...don't you think? It's not like anyone is saying the car won't exceed 147, no matter what the power. More power = more force to combat drag...plain and simple. You could do 300MPH with the right power plant.
9/20/05, 10:50 PM
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Originally posted by wild stray@September 20, 2005, 11:00 PM
Is there any place where it's legal to test top speed on a production car in the straight away??? Have Mustang - Will Travel
Is there any place where it's legal to test top speed on a production car in the straight away??? Have Mustang - Will Travel
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9/20/05, 10:51 PM
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Originally posted by Vegasjay@September 20, 2005, 11:45 PM
Meet up with me!! There is a great strech of road just north of Vegas...
Meet up with me!! There is a great strech of road just north of Vegas...
I rewmember that one well.. just watch out for coyotes and jackrabbits
9/20/05, 10:56 PM
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Originally posted by Vegasjay@September 20, 2005, 9:45 PM
Meet up with me!! There is a great strech of road just north of Vegas...
Meet up with me!! There is a great strech of road just north of Vegas...
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9/20/05, 10:59 PM
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Originally posted by jlb@September 20, 2005, 10:50 PM
Your car is beyond stock in terms of hp/tq, so it stands to reason it will exceed the factory drag limit...don't you think? It's not like anyone is saying the car won't exceed 147, no matter what the power. More power = more force to combat drag...plain and simple. You could do 300MPH with the right power plant.
Your car is beyond stock in terms of hp/tq, so it stands to reason it will exceed the factory drag limit...don't you think? It's not like anyone is saying the car won't exceed 147, no matter what the power. More power = more force to combat drag...plain and simple. You could do 300MPH with the right power plant.