Originally Posted by jp's performance

that some funny $hit dustin.

Originally Posted by jp's performance

ram or centerforce is my choice both work good for me,i have the centerforce df clutch stock flywheel for now going with spec or hays 12# flywheel i did have to take off the stupid weights and it shifts fine now,just need a new tranny and i will be able to shift at 6500 again.

Originally Posted by RPM

OK, fair enough. Over the years I have used Centerforce Dual Friction clutch kits in GM applications. Specifically the 11" clutch with either 10 or 26 spline discs. What I and many others have reported on other boards is incomplete release between the plate and disc. I found in this problem with several plates I have run and have personally seen it in other cars. What I found were the weights installed on the pressure plate diaphram fingers shifting off center and distorting the pressure plate diaphram spring. These pressure plates at least in my application are Valeo units so I called Valeo and spoke to a tech about them. He indicated that Valeo sold the plates to Midway Industries (owner ot the Centerforce brand) and that Midway installed the weight rings and painted the covers. I purchased a stock replacement Valeo plate and compared it to my "hi perf" Centerforce. The only noticable difference were the goofy weights which can never work IMHO and a crappy orange paint job. The Dual friction pressure plate, at least in GM 11" applications is nothing more than a stock replacement plate with a bad paint job, a cute little sticker, and some half-arsed weights that cause nothing but problems.

Their (Centerforce Dual Friction) disc on the other hand seems fine.

I'm just pissed at this company for passing off what is supposed to be some great clutch kit which under closer inspection is just some scamed up gimmicked-out stock pressure plate. BTW, their customer service is just like their pressure plates, suck!

Does this answer your question?

Originally Posted by RPM

I want to apologize if I came off abrasive. After my experience with this company and how they represent their products I tend get this way. Maybe Centerforce has a good clutch (that is a real performance product not a painted stock replacement) for our Mustangs but I would take any of their descriptions with a big grain of salt.

Originally Posted by 300HPGT

You need a new tranny?????? I would be interested to hear why. I am in the process of replacing my clutch in my car because the stock one is shot. I replaced it with a ram clutch and boy is there WAY more surface area on the ram than the stock clutch. But I am trying to trouble shoot a transmission problem because Ford was giving me the run around saying my clutch was the problem and not my transmission. It grinds when you shift from 1st to 2nd. So let me know what is up with your trans.

Originally Posted by jp's performance

it does not have second gear anymore,it grinds going in third gear,i just bought j.r granatelli's 3650 from his 05 with 700 miles he went with a 6-speed for $660.00 to my door and then i am going to have my buddy pro shift the 1 that's in the car right now.

Originally Posted by Black3V

ok I see nobody has mentioned Spec. When replacing the clutch and flywheel with theirs then there is no shims needed. I have been running the stg3+ with aluminum flywheel for about 9 months with very nice street manners and great holding power. I have not exactly been easy on it either with consistent low 1.6 60 ft's at the track.