performance clutch options.......
performance clutch options.......
in the future i am looking to get a good clutch to replace the factory one...i will also change the shifter as well so i am looking for a good clutch as far as street rods are concerned ...not going to be a full time track car in the near future ..thanks for your opinons.....
Originally Posted by RPM
Centerforce is a gimmic - McLeod on the other hand is awesome! I just hope B&M doesn't screw up the product.
RPM,
Please post specifics. Over the years I have only heard good things about the dual friction and Centerforce clutches. Now you jump in with your "gimmic" and the rolling eyes smiley.
Needless to say, this just doesn't hold much water with me. So please post detailed information about your own experiences with them and why you think they don't work.
Please post specifics. Over the years I have only heard good things about the dual friction and Centerforce clutches. Now you jump in with your "gimmic" and the rolling eyes smiley.
Needless to say, this just doesn't hold much water with me. So please post detailed information about your own experiences with them and why you think they don't work.
OK, fair enough. Over the years I have used Centerforce Dual Friction clutch kits in GM applications. Specifically the 11" clutch with either 10 or 26 spline discs. What I and many others have reported on other boards is incomplete release between the plate and disc. I found in this problem with several plates I have run and have personally seen it in other cars. What I found were the weights installed on the pressure plate diaphram fingers shifting off center and distorting the pressure plate diaphram spring. These pressure plates at least in my application are Valeo units so I called Valeo and spoke to a tech about them. He indicated that Valeo sold the plates to Midway Industries (owner ot the Centerforce brand) and that Midway installed the weight rings and painted the covers. I purchased a stock replacement Valeo plate and compared it to my "hi perf" Centerforce. The only noticable difference were the goofy weights which can never work IMHO and a crappy orange paint job. The Dual friction pressure plate, at least in GM 11" applications is nothing more than a stock replacement plate with a bad paint job, a cute little sticker, and some half-arsed weights that cause nothing but problems.
Their (Centerforce Dual Friction) disc on the other hand seems fine.
I'm just pissed at this company for passing off what is supposed to be some great clutch kit which under closer inspection is just some scamed up gimmicked-out stock pressure plate. BTW, their customer service is just like their pressure plates, suck!
Does this answer your question?
Their (Centerforce Dual Friction) disc on the other hand seems fine.
I'm just pissed at this company for passing off what is supposed to be some great clutch kit which under closer inspection is just some scamed up gimmicked-out stock pressure plate. BTW, their customer service is just like their pressure plates, suck!
Does this answer your question?
Originally Posted by RPM
OK, fair enough. Over the years I have used Centerforce Dual Friction clutch kits in GM applications. Specifically the 11" clutch with either 10 or 26 spline discs. What I and many others have reported on other boards is incomplete release between the plate and disc. I found in this problem with several plates I have run and have personally seen it in other cars. What I found were the weights installed on the pressure plate diaphram fingers shifting off center and distorting the pressure plate diaphram spring. These pressure plates at least in my application are Valeo units so I called Valeo and spoke to a tech about them. He indicated that Valeo sold the plates to Midway Industries (owner ot the Centerforce brand) and that Midway installed the weight rings and painted the covers. I purchased a stock replacement Valeo plate and compared it to my "hi perf" Centerforce. The only noticable difference were the goofy weights which can never work IMHO and a crappy orange paint job. The Dual friction pressure plate, at least in GM 11" applications is nothing more than a stock replacement plate with a bad paint job, a cute little sticker, and some half-arsed weights that cause nothing but problems.
Their (Centerforce Dual Friction) disc on the other hand seems fine.
I'm just pissed at this company for passing off what is supposed to be some great clutch kit which under closer inspection is just some scamed up gimmicked-out stock pressure plate. BTW, their customer service is just like their pressure plates, suck!
Does this answer your question?
Their (Centerforce Dual Friction) disc on the other hand seems fine.
I'm just pissed at this company for passing off what is supposed to be some great clutch kit which under closer inspection is just some scamed up gimmicked-out stock pressure plate. BTW, their customer service is just like their pressure plates, suck!
Does this answer your question?
incoming! nice retort!
ram or centerforce is my choice both work good for me,i have the centerforce df clutch stock flywheel for now going with spec or hays 12# flywheel i did have to take off the stupid weights and it shifts fine now,just need a new tranny and i will be able to shift at 6500 again.
Originally Posted by RPM
Centerforce is a gimmic - McLeod on the other hand is awesome! I just hope B&M doesn't screw up the product.
this is what i exactly wanted to see...i want to hear the good`s and the bad`s ....i don`t want to chnge out this stock clutch and have nothing but problems......i want the performance and quality i am am looking for and that i should expect with a high performance clutch.....
Ok bottom line.Wich company has a direct replacement with no shimming isues.This clutch thing is getting confusing.
Centerforce® is proud to announce an 11” direct replacement high performance clutch system for the 2005 4.6L Ford Mustang GT. This hot new application is now available in a Dual Friction clutch assembly. The Dual Friction should be used for hot street and/or weekend racing and more extreme power upgrades. The Centerforce part number is DF611679(Disc Included) for the Dual Friction. Please contact any Centerforce dealer or Centerforce directly with questions at 928/771-8422 or visit them online at www.centerforce.com.
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
to me direct replacement means no shims.
They have their own flywheel now too
http://www.centerforce.com/newsevent...05&sku=3300424
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
to me direct replacement means no shims.
They have their own flywheel now too
http://www.centerforce.com/newsevent...05&sku=3300424
Originally Posted by dustindu4
oops summit is out of stock until 6/14
Call Jegs and see if they have it, new stickers for the lawnmower too
Call Jegs and see if they have it, new stickers for the lawnmower too
ok I see nobody has mentioned Spec. When replacing the clutch and flywheel with theirs then there is no shims needed. I have been running the stg3+ with aluminum flywheel for about 9 months with very nice street manners and great holding power. I have not exactly been easy on it either with consistent low 1.6 60 ft's at the track.



