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Old 6/30/06 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SurfnSoCal
one other- in this one, Rrobello is driving and filming (K&N intake, JBA shorty's, straight pipe). I am in front, so you can hear the differnce an uncatted xpipe makes.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...=691071923&n=2
that one is tough to tell what you are listening to, I think you are listening to my car mostly in that one, you can really hear yours when you take off first, but after I make the turn I think that is all my car.
Old 6/30/06 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SurfnSoCal
I figured with no cats...it would be fairly loud. Does adding the bassani muffs really quiet it down that much?
Its louder than stock, but as far as how it stacks up against anything else, I can't really say. If I'd been thinking, I would have video taped each setup so I could have something go by other than my faulty memory. Because its not like each setup got exponentially louder, some were louder than others, but certain ones I can't really judge how loud they were compared to some. Such as the Bassani mufflers, LTs and X may or may not have been louder than my MACs with the stock manifold and catted X. Obviously I could tell you which were the loudest, but there again, my preferences and tastes may be totally different. That and most of the time the only way I can judge the noise level is from the drivers seat
Old 6/30/06 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rrobello
I wonder the difference on the sound varying just the h and x
X pipe is much louder than an H pipe, but an H is much deeper than an X
Old 6/30/06 | 02:41 PM
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The Prochamber went in this morning. It took some muscling to get it all straightened up and bolted in, but its on! I was really surprised by how much quieter it is now. Its a lot deeper, very little drone in the cabin, and the trumpets have been all but vanquished. Only up in the high rpms do they make themselves known, but its not annoying by any means. No longer the crop duster. In the morning I am going to swap in the Bassanis to see what happens then.

One thing that I was thinking about today was how everything could change once I get a set of cams on there. So when the Violators get here, I think I will put a hold on my journey until I get the money for cams since once those go on, they are not coming off.
Old 6/30/06 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by rrobello
that one is tough to tell what you are listening to, I think you are listening to my car mostly in that one, you can really hear yours when you take off first, but after I make the turn I think that is all my car.
definitly...I was so far out in front of you...of course all you could hear was my car.


OHHHHHHHH BUUUUUUUUUURN

Old 6/30/06 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by rrobello
wouldnt this be the sound youd be getting running your car with the cutouts when you're using them? obviously it would be even louder do to the echo under the car, but I am trying to figure out your exact setup.

LTs, no cats, and the cutouts=no mufflers correct?

are you running the xpipe or hpipe? I wonder the difference on the sound varying just the h and x
My last set up was LTs, hi-flow cats and Bassanis. And I was pretty happy with that. Much louder than the Magnaflows, and no trumpets. It seemed if I went to a louder muffler, the fuggin trumpets would come back in force. And when the car goes back together (any day now), I'll be deleting the hi-flow cats.

When I ran the car with open headers, there was no trumpeting; so I'm assuming the cutouts will be quite similar in sound and volume.

I switched back and forth between an H and an X. I'll be staying with the X... basically because the H trumpeted more noticably. Frankly, I never really could tell much difference bewteen the two (even though a lot of people claim there is)... other than how they affected the trumpets.

So... my set-up will be: LTs, cat delete, X-pipe (with cutouts) and Bassani axlebacks. It may not be as loud as I want, but it will sound great (and run like a bat outta hell).
Old 6/30/06 | 08:16 PM
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Are you running cats with the pro chamber? and what mufflers are you using now? I'm curious because like you and many others I'm after "the sound" The first thing I did was put on loudmouths and loved it. Next went on a pro chamber and like you I couldn't believe how much quieter it made it. It's nice and deep now though, just too quiet for my tastes except when I get on it and cruising at anything over 80mph is loud inside the car. I was thinking of replacing the cats with off road legs and going with MAC axlebacks for that deep 60's car rumble.
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Here you go, updated every time I swap setups Newest is at the bottom
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showthread.php?t=48756


Theres a slight leak I can hear, and I know exactly where it is. The back of the Prochamber is not sleeved, and holding the two pipes together are some 2" band clamps. That should be remedied with some sealant. If I knew for a fact that I was keeping the Prochamber on there, I'd go with these babies: http://www.pi-thon.com/firelocks.htm
Old 7/1/06 | 09:19 PM
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Wow! isn't that loud? I won't even start mine up before 9am because it wakes up the wife and neighbors. Once it's warmed up though it's not loud at all at cruising speed and that's where I want to louden it up a bit.
What would you think about stock exhaust manifolds/off road pro chamber and MAC axlebacks?
Old 7/1/06 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SurfnSoCal
one other- in this one, Rrobello is driving and filming (K&N intake, JBA shorty's, straight pipe). I am in front, so you can hear the differnce an uncatted xpipe makes.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...=691071923&n=2
this one sounds like the chase scene in Bullit
Old 7/2/06 | 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by rakkassan34
Wow! isn't that loud? I won't even start mine up before 9am because it wakes up the wife and neighbors. Once it's warmed up though it's not loud at all at cruising speed and that's where I want to louden it up a bit.
What would you think about stock exhaust manifolds/off road pro chamber and MAC axlebacks?
If you are referring to the SLPs and catless X pipe, loud does not even begin to describe it. At about 1/3 throttle, that was as loud as my Bassanis at full throttle. WOT throttle was absolutly i n s a n e.

I say go for it, it'll definitely be louder than stock, and will probably be louder than what my setup is currently. To be honest, if I could go back to the way it sounded when I had my stock manifolds, catless X pipe, and MAC mufflers, I would be thrilled! But I would try a straight through muffler then, instead of the MACs. Let me know if you need a Prochamber, I am still wanting to sell mine.
Old 7/2/06 | 07:27 AM
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Thanks for the info. I think I'll take your advice and go with a straight through muffler. Last night I heard the best soundclips of mustangs with off road H pipes and borla stingers. I'm going to try the ford stingers. I already have a pro chamber just need off road legs for it, if you have those let me know. Will I need a tuner to turn off the o2 sensors or will just mil eliminators do?
Old 7/2/06 | 02:13 PM
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Mil eliminators would work, I had the O2 sensors turned off with a new tune. Same destination, different road.
Old 7/2/06 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by don_w
My last set up was LTs, hi-flow cats and Bassanis. And I was pretty happy with that. Much louder than the Magnaflows, and no trumpets. It seemed if I went to a louder muffler, the fuggin trumpets would come back in force. And when the car goes back together (any day now), I'll be deleting the hi-flow cats.

When I ran the car with open headers, there was no trumpeting; so I'm assuming the cutouts will be quite similar in sound and volume.

I switched back and forth between an H and an X. I'll be staying with the X... basically because the H trumpeted more noticably. Frankly, I never really could tell much difference bewteen the two (even though a lot of people claim there is)... other than how they affected the trumpets.

So... my set-up will be: LTs, cat delete, X-pipe (with cutouts) and Bassani axlebacks. It may not be as loud as I want, but it will sound great (and run like a bat outta hell).
thanks for the clarification, I cant wait to hear it. Its wierd that the H trumpeted more than the x, I would think it would be the other way around, but thats why I asked my previous question. thanks again.
Old 7/2/06 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by rrobello
thanks for the clarification, I cant wait to hear it. Its wierd that the H trumpeted more than the x, I would think it would be the other way around, but thats why I asked my previous question. thanks again.
With the SLP LMs, the X was worse that the H. But with the Bassanis, both worked pretty good, but the H was a tad more noticable than the X. Go figure...
Old 7/3/06 | 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by don_w
With the SLP LMs, the X was worse that the H. But with the Bassanis, both worked pretty good, but the H was a tad more noticable than the X. Go figure...
which cutouts are you gonna use? I saw that BBR has some that they say go right after the headers
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The actual cutout pipe/flange will be a custom job (we expect to weld those up today). And I'm using this 815-EC250D electric valve: http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...1529&langId=-1



Old 7/4/06 | 01:23 AM
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I almost got those too..... but everybody said they leak like a ***** after a while. So I will let don be the test for me.
Old 7/4/06 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by emperorjordan
..... but everybody said they leak like a ***** after a while.
I've never read that... who's "everybody"??
Old 7/4/06 | 08:30 PM
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I didn't have that brand, but mine leaded after a few months (a ticking sound, like an exhaust header leak), and so did just about everyone else who had them, any brand. I think if you put some sort of high temp silicone bead around the edge, that might take care of if? not sure, it didn't bother me to much. I think a different design would probably leak less, like maybe some sort of sliding plate, instead of a rotating plate (think like a sliding glass door, same idea) That would probably seal better, as it would have an actual groove that it would seat in.

I love the sound of my stock exhaust and flowmaster mufflers, but I don't think they are loud enough. would headers or different cats & tubing make the exhaust louder and not change the sound to much? or would all that be pretty much worthess for the cause?



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