The Brisk 497-3VR14S is the only one that I know of. http://steeda.com/products/brisk_spark_plugs_silver.php

 

even the brisk plugs are a ripoff

 

Whether you break them off or the Ford tech does, you'll pay for them to get the broken ones out. So if you change to one piece plugs now with out incident, you won't have to shell out the $600+ it'll cost to get them out at 100k.

 

Really? I would think that if they broke them while removing it that I would not have to pay for the extra labour? That would be like me charging someone to replace the cpu in their computer because I didn't remove it properly and broke off a few pins.

 

I see what you're saying, but the question that's asked would be: whose fault is it for breaking them....? The tech's fault even if he was using the recommended method for removal? or the manufacturer's fault, because they designed/manufactured an inferior part (although there is no warranty)? Both parties of course claim they're right, mean while you're stuck paying the bill atleast for labor unless you luck out and get a very reputable shop that understands the situation and works with you, eating the cost of this case in hopes of future (profitable) business.

That's just my personal experience....not from spark plugs specifically, but along those lines. All I'm saying is, I see the point and agree with post #23.

 

The whole notion of a wrench jockey busting plug parts off in your motor and then charging you for the removal blows my mind ! If that ever happened to me I'm afraid blkstang06 is going to need bail money....

 

LOL I hear ya, but again..... whose fault is it that they broke? The guy turning the wrench, or the company that manufactured a part with an inferior design (and without warranty, to boot) ?

Bail money or straight jacket, like I said- either way, you end up paying!

 

I read all the post on these OEM plugs and decided to save some stress in my life.
They are $$$$, but I hate the stealers even more.

Also the Champions open the spark up better, since it is a standard design plug.

 

Thx.

Also from what I have found (google'ng) its not just us Stangers the F150 5.4l guys have had the plugs break and then they have 2 options: 1 a big dealer bill or 2 tow it home and have fun trying to get the broken sheild/ground whatever out of the head and hope it doesnt fall in to the cyclider which odds are would require pulling the heads. Then the $$ and factor goes up from there. Yeah these new 1 piece plugs cost $$ but it looks like its either pay me $$ now or possibly $$$$ later. As soon as I can the Ford ones are coming out and the 1 piece plugs are going in...

 

I would just wait for more 1-piece plug options to be made available. Competition will drive the prices down. I doubt many 2005-up Mustang owners NEED new plugs at this exact moment.

 

Its not the fact that there needed at this moment ! its getting the inferior design out before there is so much carbon build up that it increases the odds of the plug fragmenting when you do try to remove it!

 

Most of the carbon build up, was at top of the ground shield.
These are a three piece plug design.
1) Porcelain,with copper core
2) Jam nut
3) Ground shield

 

what a pain in the ****....

so what are we mustangers to do?

i have 20k on mine, and im wondering if i should get em out now and feel better about it later, or just leave them and trust the ford grease monkeys at 100k.....

if they break a plug i am not paying for it... especially if the manual says to leave them in there until 100k. if i went over and they broke them off then they have something to stand on, until then???

what are we to do?

 

I pull mine at each oil change (once a year for me) and clean them up with steel wool and re-coat them with nickel based anti-seize.

 

I'm going to pull mine in the next month. I've got 10.000 miles on my 06 going to go with the Brisk plug! Just because a plug will function until 100,000 mile, you can bet its not functioning at optimum efficiency! I've seen a few pics of the factory 3 piece completely carbon up at 10.000 miles especially if your running a aftermarket tune!

 

A mechanic breaking a plug off after warrenty expiration is no diffrent than breaking off a bolt in an exhaust manifold after warrenty expiration. You are going to pay for it. Really, if you change a lot of plugs you'll find that a steel plug in an aluminum head with no thread lubricant left in there for a long time is likely going to be a ***** to get out. Do yourselves a favor and at least pull them, clean them, and use the nickel never seize on em and put em back in. They are very easy to get to.

 

Well heck, I guess I need to become a mechanic then. I'll just *accidentally* turn a bolt or two the wrong direction until they break off. "Oops....guess I have to spend an extra 3 hours fixing that, and charge the customer. What a shame."

 

Yep, that has happened NUMEROUS times at our local Ford dealership. This wasn't a 2-bit mechanic out of Joe's shop... this was a 5-star Ford dealership. We didn't get different treatment at other dealerships either. They will not hesitate to charge you for their mistakes. We are definitely in the wrong line of business... Working at a contracted test facility is another job that appears to pay extremely well or at least remain extremely profitable due to charging over $100 USD per hour for sitting on your a$$ looking at an engine run.

 

This probably won't make anyone feel better, but the tool kit needed to remove a broken plug is $250. At least that is a little better than getting owned by a $600 mechanic bill when he jacks up your spark plugs!!!

 

What kind of plugs are the Autolite HT0? Are they prone to breakage too?