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I think I figured out why my 1/4 times stink

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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 10:42 PM
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Last Wednesday I went up to New England Dragway and met up with George (Blazing Saddles). I made 4 runs, all about 20-30 minutes apart and did 14.471@98.33, 14.675@98.67, 14.477@95.99, 14.479@98.39. Pretty consistent right?

Then I parked the car and let it sit for about an hour and a half with the hood open. When I came back the engine was dead cold. I got back in line and pulled the best run of my life at 14.109@101.13. I did nothing different than what I usually do. I did the same burnout and launched the same way as always.

I guess the key is keeping the engine as cold as possible. Now I know why George put in that electric water pump. Engine temperature is key. These cars just don't cool down fast enough.

Right after I did this great run my engine was super hot and I could barely touch my K&N intake. I got back in line to race George within 15 minutes of my last run. My engine choked on launch, suffering from the "hesistation after deceleration" BS everyone talks about. I did a 15.366@91.86. I am suspecting that the "hesistation after deceleration" is caused by hot engines choking on hot air inside the engine compartment.

What do you guys think?
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 10:47 PM
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Heat Soak is what your engine is experiencing. It can be seen during long dyno sessions and drag duty. The '05+ will always be known for this above all other issues me thinks.

The trick is to bring a cooler with packets of ice for your intake, it helps a ton between runs with hot outside temperatures.

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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 11:06 PM
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My best time so far is 14.0 with just flowmasters. Stock air box and all.
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 11:12 PM
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Heat soak is definitely a problem. But, from my experience, I can "hot lap" 3 or 4 runs, and see about drop off of maybe .01 - .03 per run. But, if it sets for 20-30 minutes or so, it cools off pretty well (at night, anyway). And yes, I gotta get me an electric pump, too!!

BTW, on your last run, did you have TCS turned off? Sounds like maybe it wasn't.
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 11:15 PM
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Originally posted by don_w@September 19, 2005, 1:15 AM
Heat soak is definitely a problem. But, from my experience, I can "hot lap" 3 or 4 runs, and see about drop off of maybe .01 - .03 per run. But, if it sets for 20-30 minutes or so, it cools off pretty well (at night, anyway). And yes, I gotta get me an electric pump, too!!

BTW, on your last run, did you have TCS turned off? Sounds like maybe it wasn't.
yeah it was off
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 11:33 PM
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Originally posted by dustindu4@September 18, 2005, 10:18 PM
yeah it was off
I would be extremely surprised if heat soak caused you to drop off by almost a full second. I sometimes make as many as 6-7 passes in an hour, and have never seen ETs drop by more than a tenth or two.... from the first pass to the last one.
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 01:05 AM
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I'm almost positive it was off
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 06:05 AM
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Originally posted by don_w@September 18, 2005, 11:36 PM
I would be extremely surprised if heat soak caused you to drop off by almost a full second. I sometimes make as many as 6-7 passes in an hour, and have never seen ETs drop by more than a tenth or two.... from the first pass to the last one.
I did about 5 runs in an hour, and stayed between 13.7 and 13.8 at 102 to 103 mph, and it's an automatic.
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 08:16 AM
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If you are on stock tires, don't do a burn out. Just drive around the water. If you get some semi-racing tires or slicks, then do burnouts.
My times when down when is stopped doing them.
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 02:35 PM
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I never thought about the heat myself, could explain why both times I've gone to the strip so far I've got my best time on my first run. Its about a 30-45 minute ride to the strip from my house so the car is nice and hot when I get there. I will have to let it cool down and see if I can shave a few tenths off my time.
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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Does anybody have 1/8 times?
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by jlb@September 19, 2005, 2:45 PM
Does anybody have 1/8 times?
I run almost exclusively at 1/8-mi tracks... best run so far for me is 8.811.
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 04:59 PM
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1/8 mile............8.14@84.71
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 05:10 PM
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8.14...wow! That's quick. Very quick. Have you ever run it without the MTs? Auto or stick?
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 05:39 PM
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Originally posted by Blazing Saddles@September 19, 2005, 4:38 PM
It's best to leave the line at 175-180 degrees.
Wouldn't you be going the wrong direction then?
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 08:28 PM
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Originally posted by Blazing Saddles@September 19, 2005, 4:50 PM
Just flip your rearend over and you'll have 5 gears in reverse.

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