Group Buy - Throttle Body Purchase Ready @ $396!
8/23/05, 06:17 AM
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Originally posted by 2005RedGT@August 23, 2005, 5:54 AM
However, now I need more information from LFP and Andre. Once I get that, I will update everyone. I havew requested some dyno stats for both a non-modded / stock car and a modded & tuned car to get stats for both.
-Bryan
However, now I need more information from LFP and Andre. Once I get that, I will update everyone. I havew requested some dyno stats for both a non-modded / stock car and a modded & tuned car to get stats for both.
-Bryan
I volunteer to have Andre test this on my car. I can take it back to stock with the exception of the Magnaflows. Then I can add the JLT and tune back and see what the difference is. I could meet with him this Saturday. This would be very close to what they did for the BBK TB.
I do like the look and finish of this TB better than the BBK.
Steve
8/23/05, 07:41 AM
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2005RedGT,
You've done a good job, no need to try harder bro and get an ulser from it
Let the tuners figure it out. Mark could lower the price if he chose to, they are still making a decent profit on it.
To me...this sounds as if the TB's are not ready, and a "certain" number is needed, or wanted for production...just reading between the lines here...maybe Im wrong
Are they shipping as soon as an order comes in ?
The TB's are priced high, but thats the price U pay when new parts are in demand, all vendors do this.
Question is...will we find one willing to give a true GP price, and let the products performance sell from there. A GP is to help promote a product, not make a million the first go around..
I saw the JDM piece U speak of,very nice indeed..
You've done a good job, no need to try harder bro and get an ulser from it
Let the tuners figure it out. Mark could lower the price if he chose to, they are still making a decent profit on it.To me...this sounds as if the TB's are not ready, and a "certain" number is needed, or wanted for production...just reading between the lines here...maybe Im wrong
Are they shipping as soon as an order comes in ?
Originally posted by hawgman@August 23, 2005, 8:20 AM
Yea, well they also say that all the hp and tq gains were achieved without a tune. That your car's computer will just "compensate" and perform better. I call BS.
I was offered one of the TBs from Mark at nearly the BBK price before the group purchase started. Just for grins I asked my tuner about it. Not going to go in to detail, just say I still have not purchased one yet. Also, Jim over at JDM has been testing a 62mm one ( no idea who's and don't think it is revelant ) and says while yes it does improve throttle response, it showed ZERO horsepower on a dyno. So I am with davids2toys on this one. Going to hold off until there is a little more data. If I miss out on a good deal, oh well. Don't mind spending $100 on taking a chance of hp, but $400 is quite a bit of a chance. Vegasjay is supposed to be getting his in a couple of days and promised a dyno. Would much rather wait to see what he has to say
Yea, well they also say that all the hp and tq gains were achieved without a tune. That your car's computer will just "compensate" and perform better. I call BS.
I was offered one of the TBs from Mark at nearly the BBK price before the group purchase started. Just for grins I asked my tuner about it. Not going to go in to detail, just say I still have not purchased one yet. Also, Jim over at JDM has been testing a 62mm one ( no idea who's and don't think it is revelant ) and says while yes it does improve throttle response, it showed ZERO horsepower on a dyno. So I am with davids2toys on this one. Going to hold off until there is a little more data. If I miss out on a good deal, oh well. Don't mind spending $100 on taking a chance of hp, but $400 is quite a bit of a chance. Vegasjay is supposed to be getting his in a couple of days and promised a dyno. Would much rather wait to see what he has to say
Question is...will we find one willing to give a true GP price, and let the products performance sell from there. A GP is to help promote a product, not make a million the first go around..
I saw the JDM piece U speak of,very nice indeed..
8/23/05, 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by 2005RedGT@August 22, 2005, 3:31 PM
The BBK has proven dyno stats in MM&FF of 18/28. LFP has yet to provide any stats, except for what they claim of 8.5/8 with no tune.
The BBK has proven dyno stats in MM&FF of 18/28. LFP has yet to provide any stats, except for what they claim of 8.5/8 with no tune.
8/23/05, 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by Kluski@August 23, 2005, 10:39 AM
Am I seeing this right? BBK is offering theirs for a lot less with huge gains over the LFP. What is the incentive to go with LFP? Especially after the group buy is over, and their price goes way up.
Am I seeing this right? BBK is offering theirs for a lot less with huge gains over the LFP. What is the incentive to go with LFP? Especially after the group buy is over, and their price goes way up.
Don't always belive the magazines either - I have seen magazine dynos say that the mufflers available for 05 produce decent gains. However, you will find that most people will be able to debut that. However, LFP need to provide some dyno charts for STOCK and MODDED 05's so we can see proof.
-Bryan
8/23/05, 11:14 AM
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Thanks for holding off for a while Bryan, some of us have to pick and choose our mods very carefully due to budget constraints...I really wish I did not have to, so I could jump on anything I wanted and if it does not work...who cares!
8/23/05, 06:54 PM
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Originally posted by hawgman@August 23, 2005, 6:20 AM
Don't mind spending $100 on taking a chance of hp, but $400 is quite a bit of a chance. Vegasjay is supposed to be getting his in a couple of days and promised a dyno. Would much rather wait to see what he has to say
Don't mind spending $100 on taking a chance of hp, but $400 is quite a bit of a chance. Vegasjay is supposed to be getting his in a couple of days and promised a dyno. Would much rather wait to see what he has to say
I might also be testing out some Zex... 
8/24/05, 06:33 AM
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One of our members, Madhouse, is supposed to get the new TB next week. Andre will dyno and tune and dyno for the new LFP TB. I will post his results ASAP.
-Bryan
-Bryan
8/30/05, 06:25 PM
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Not really. I am waiting for him to dyno on a stock and then a modified 05. This should be coming with-in a 7-10 days. Unfortuantely, they are waiting for a new batch to arrive.
-Bryan
-Bryan
8/30/05, 08:03 PM
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After reading this thread and talking to someone I trust. A larger TB will not do much at all for our engine (maybe 3-5hp). I myself 
So I'm waiting for a few real world dyno's to post before considering a purchase. Thanks to those who are trying out this mod.
So I'm waiting for a few real world dyno's to post before considering a purchase. Thanks to those who are trying out this mod.
9/1/05, 06:30 PM
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Well, good news. Andre has tested the TB and has the results. I will post up pics and dyno sheets as soon as he has them. For now, take a look at his post on ModularFord.com:
http://www.modularfords.com/forums/showthr...ed=1#post348973
"...total of 9.1HP and 7.6TQ with no tuning, no cold air, no cheating of any kind..."
-Bryan
http://www.modularfords.com/forums/showthr...ed=1#post348973
"...total of 9.1HP and 7.6TQ with no tuning, no cold air, no cheating of any kind..."
-Bryan
9/1/05, 06:31 PM
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Here is a link w/ actual dyno numbers from a bone stock 05...after some tuning it will be even more worth the loot...
[url=http://www.modularfords.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34478&page=3]http://www.modularfords.com/forums/showthr...?t=34478&page=3[/url
Bryan, you beat me to it ]
[url=http://www.modularfords.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34478&page=3]http://www.modularfords.com/forums/showthr...?t=34478&page=3[/url
Bryan, you beat me to it
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9/1/05, 07:36 PM
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That's good new's... That's a lot without intake, exhaust and a tune. Mine just arrived and it's a work of art. You will imediatley see were the extra money went. I'm shooting for a 15 RWHP gain and those number's you posted might make that possible.
9/1/05, 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by elvism@September 1, 2005, 8:06 PM
i would like to see one tested thats already been tuned with other mods!! thats where i want to see the difference and for it to be a 5sp.
i would like to see one tested thats already been tuned with other mods!! thats where i want to see the difference and for it to be a 5sp.