Granatelli Coil Packs, any real dyno proof
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I agree with CR...lets try to keep this thread on topic. Traffic142 asked it these are worth anything on a N/A engine. I can believe they would help on a supercharged or turbocharged engine but he wants to know about a N/A engine. Since I am also staying N/A and am running out of mods for my engine that are reasonable in price I would also like to see a before and after dyno sheet on a N/A motor. CR....seems like a pretty easy test for you guys up at Tillmanspeed to do to prove it. I for one will buy the first set if you can prove their worthyness. What do you say....prove it and group buy!!! And STD (Blackstang06) will buy the second set.
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This test has been done repeatedly. GMS designed a set of coils for the N/A guy looking for a littel more without breaking the bank. I agree you do not need our Pro Series or Pro Series Xtreme coils if you are running a 350hp N/A - but you can always try the Hot Street Coils. I wish I could explain it more in detail but everytime I try to be helpfull I get accused of advertising.
I am still interested but I will say it again. I am still am waiting on a before and after dyno sheet. Stop all the gum flappin and post some proof. Don't mean that to be hurtful but I am from Ohio....We are like the guys from Missouri..."The show me state" Show me please!!
Scott
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OK "as requested" I am posting these figures. I fully expect to get blasted -AGAIN- from the moderators so I am prefacing this by only addressing the "as requested" info to the question posted.
http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/ The GMS website link shows tons of dyno graphs and comparose.
http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/ignition.php
http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/ignition_cat.php?cat=1
http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/artwork_dyno.php - tons of dyno graphs here
http://www.gmsvideos.com/video/2803 http://www.gmsvideos.com/video/3248 - video commercials or sorts
http://www.gmsvideos.com/video/3245 - endorsement of coils
http://www.gmsvideos.com/video/1358 - dyno test before and after 1
http://www.gmsvideos.com/video/1523 - before and after 2
Ironically - I need to search for more info on a stock before and after (sort of an A - B test) of the coils - I know I have dyno sheets - I just need to pull them from the dyno computer and PDF them
http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/ The GMS website link shows tons of dyno graphs and comparose.
http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/ignition.php
http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/ignition_cat.php?cat=1
http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/artwork_dyno.php - tons of dyno graphs here
http://www.gmsvideos.com/video/2803 http://www.gmsvideos.com/video/3248 - video commercials or sorts
http://www.gmsvideos.com/video/3245 - endorsement of coils
http://www.gmsvideos.com/video/1358 - dyno test before and after 1
http://www.gmsvideos.com/video/1523 - before and after 2
Ironically - I need to search for more info on a stock before and after (sort of an A - B test) of the coils - I know I have dyno sheets - I just need to pull them from the dyno computer and PDF them
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OK "as requested" I am posting these figures. I fully expect to get blasted -AGAIN- from the moderators so I am prefacing this by only addressing the "as requested" info to the question posted.
http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/ The GMS website link shows tons of dyno graphs and comparose.
http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/ignition.php
http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/ignition_cat.php?cat=1
http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/artwork_dyno.php - tons of dyno graphs here
http://www.gmsvideos.com/video/2803 http://www.gmsvideos.com/video/3248 - video commercials or sorts
http://www.gmsvideos.com/video/3245 - endorsement of coils
http://www.gmsvideos.com/video/1358 - dyno test before and after 1
http://www.gmsvideos.com/video/1523 - before and after 2
Ironically - I need to search for more info on a stock before and after (sort of an A - B test) of the coils - I know I have dyno sheets - I just need to pull them from the dyno computer and PDF them
http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/ The GMS website link shows tons of dyno graphs and comparose.
http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/ignition.php
http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/ignition_cat.php?cat=1
http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/artwork_dyno.php - tons of dyno graphs here
http://www.gmsvideos.com/video/2803 http://www.gmsvideos.com/video/3248 - video commercials or sorts
http://www.gmsvideos.com/video/3245 - endorsement of coils
http://www.gmsvideos.com/video/1358 - dyno test before and after 1
http://www.gmsvideos.com/video/1523 - before and after 2
Ironically - I need to search for more info on a stock before and after (sort of an A - B test) of the coils - I know I have dyno sheets - I just need to pull them from the dyno computer and PDF them
Very good information. I give you Kudo's!! But if you look back at the orginial question...are they worth anything on a N/A motor?? I can believe they are a worthwhile investment on a supercharged motor. But what about N/A?
Scott
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I thought it was going to be a N/A test not supercharged cars. I think we all want to see a test from a third party on a N/A car. If they are as good as they say they are then there should be no problem supplying a set to some speed shop out there for testing. If they really work then more people will probably start buying them.
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I'm not knocking or doubting the product at all. I think it works. I think you've proven it. All I'm saying is I think this is what will put this board at ease:
3rd Party Results on a N/A S197 with basic bolt-ons or even stock before and after and with just the springs like on your results. I'm willing to do it to help you out. ****, I'll even send the coils back when it's done or if the customer wants them we'll pay for them. Not looking for any handouts. Just offering to help you calm the storm. Either way though, I still believe the product works without having to dyno it. I'm sold... GMS isn't selling "Tornado's".
CR
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3rd Party Results on a N/A S197 with basic bolt-ons or even stock before and after and with just the springs like on your results. I'm willing to do it to help you out. ****, I'll even send the coils back when it's done or if the customer wants them we'll pay for them. Not looking for any handouts. Just offering to help you calm the storm. Either way though, I still believe the product works without having to dyno it. I'm sold... GMS isn't selling "Tornado's".
CR
Tillman Speed, Inc.
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Not sure about that one. As you know most of the guys here hide behind an alias. I know he does not advertise on this site so perhaps he does not want to get in trouble. The question keeps getting asked about a 3rd party that tested the parts - he is a third party that has tested
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Not sure about that one. As you know most of the guys here hide behind an alias. I know he does not advertise on this site so perhaps he does not want to get in trouble. The question keeps getting asked about a 3rd party that tested the parts - he is a third party that has tested
Scott
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Bumping this to the top because I am still interested in this mod for my N/A car. I just want to say I do believe these work for the F/I guys. No question in my mine. But I just want to see one before and after dyno pull on a N/A car. I bet CR's offer @ Tillman is still open. What do you say? I think this is the third time in this thread I have asked to see dyno proof on a (N/A car only). Heck at this point I don't care about a 3rd party I'd just like to see Granatelli's test results when you tested your own product during development on a N/A car.. And I know you can't hear my tone when I type this but it is not nasty at all. I just want all the yaking to stop and show us some numbers. It's a fair question.
Scott
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