Gas additives
#22
Legacy TMS Member
I believe MN has mandated E20 at every gas station, while I recall MI mandated E10 at every gas station, up to E15. Quite a few states have started doing the same for E10 and many of the gas stations in my area now have E85. Good luck trying to avoid ethanol because it's likely you're already using it.
#23
Tasca Super Boss 429 Member
I believe MN has mandated E20 at every gas station, while I recall MI mandated E10 at every gas station, up to E15. Quite a few states have started doing the same for E10 and many of the gas stations in my area now have E85. Good luck trying to avoid ethanol because it's likely you're already using it.
The bill has been signed though.
#24
Surprising that Cali let another state one up them like that lol.
yeah right now there are still a few stations that dont run ethanol in their gasoline. I suppose the argument being their detergents are more then sufficient, Ima be PO when that goes into affect.
Need to find a new place to live
yeah right now there are still a few stations that dont run ethanol in their gasoline. I suppose the argument being their detergents are more then sufficient, Ima be PO when that goes into affect.
Need to find a new place to live
#26
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Shell is excellent gas...possibly some of the best available. I don't know who said Shell is not good. Maybe that is from years ago, but currently it is very good. Anything top tier is excellent too.
#27
I dont like shell because they use ethanol. Im not 100% convinced about their quality either.
Ive said it before and Ill say it again, chevrons good stuff, so is Mobil(at least here in cali) they dont use ethanol either. There has to be a reason Ford recomends BP, cant imagine why, no BP stations out here, BP owns Arco thats out here, which is cruddy gas imo
Ive said it before and Ill say it again, chevrons good stuff, so is Mobil(at least here in cali) they dont use ethanol either. There has to be a reason Ford recomends BP, cant imagine why, no BP stations out here, BP owns Arco thats out here, which is cruddy gas imo
#29
Is that 1.50 you are saving really worth all the gunk your engine can build up. Yes big companie gas prices can be a little higher, but they have superior detergents that help keep the engine clean.
If you drove a 88 ford fiesta Id get it, but you drive a mid to high 20k car
#31
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I will never understand why ppl do that, especially ppl that own a nice pricey car.
Is that 1.50 you are saving really worth all the gunk your engine can build up. Yes big companie gas prices can be a little higher, but they have superior detergents that help keep the engine clean.
If you drove a 88 ford fiesta Id get it, but you drive a mid to high 20k car
Is that 1.50 you are saving really worth all the gunk your engine can build up. Yes big companie gas prices can be a little higher, but they have superior detergents that help keep the engine clean.
If you drove a 88 ford fiesta Id get it, but you drive a mid to high 20k car
I can also get 19-20 mpg in mixed city/highway driving with the grocery store gas. Decent gas mileage and no pinging = good gas.
#32
Tasca Super Boss 429 Member
It hasn't pinged yet when I hit the limiter in 90F-100F ambient with the A/C on in the afternoon, so I think it's pretty good gas. I've tried namebrand stations before and haven't gotten such consistent results. I'm sticking with the grocery store gas (Meijer). Did I mention I use 87 octane? The compression ratio on our 4.6L SOHC 3V V8s is a bit high for 87 octane, but it seems Ford was able to tune it to run reliably on 87 which I cannot say the same for other cars like the 350Z, G37, Audi TT, Mazda RX-8, etc...
I can also get 19-20 mpg in mixed city/highway driving with the grocery store gas. Decent gas mileage and no pinging = good gas.
I can also get 19-20 mpg in mixed city/highway driving with the grocery store gas. Decent gas mileage and no pinging = good gas.
But...
It will be interesting to see how long your fuel filter lasts.
#33
It hasn't pinged yet when I hit the limiter in 90F-100F ambient with the A/C on in the afternoon, so I think it's pretty good gas. I've tried namebrand stations before and haven't gotten such consistent results. I'm sticking with the grocery store gas (Meijer). Did I mention I use 87 octane? The compression ratio on our 4.6L SOHC 3V V8s is a bit high for 87 octane, but it seems Ford was able to tune it to run reliably on 87 which I cannot say the same for other cars like the 350Z, G37, Audi TT, Mazda RX-8, etc...
I can also get 19-20 mpg in mixed city/highway driving with the grocery store gas. Decent gas mileage and no pinging = good gas.
I can also get 19-20 mpg in mixed city/highway driving with the grocery store gas. Decent gas mileage and no pinging = good gas.
You would only ping if you used improper octane, and the gas would burn similarly to any other gas and so your gas mileage wouldnt be much affected, at least not enough to notice, but the detergents prevent build of of junk on your valves etc.
In my auto tech class we decided to do our own experiment(since this argument seems to come up all the time and the class was willing to pay for it) using diffrent gas in two similar vehicles. two of us had mid 80s Celica GTS, I had an 86 one of my class mates had a 88 I think it was, both autos.
We pulled the heads off cleaned them up did a valve job, got them back together. I used to use the cheapest gas I could find, the other guy used only chevron. couple weeks before the end of this course(9 months) we pulled the heads off our cars. He had about 3k more miles on his head then I did, his valves had alot less build up then mine did.
Since then I never used anything accept chevron unless I was in a pinsh
#34
Legacy TMS Member
There aren't any Chevron stations here. All gasolines are required to have detergents.
I've been using the grocery store gas in my other car for the past 2 year and the fuel filter was changed without affecting gas mileage at all (the new filter didn't improve gas mileage and the old filter wasn't clogged).
My Stang isn't an expensive foreign car and I have a 5 year powertrain warranty so it uses the cheapest gas I find.
I've been using the grocery store gas in my other car for the past 2 year and the fuel filter was changed without affecting gas mileage at all (the new filter didn't improve gas mileage and the old filter wasn't clogged).
My Stang isn't an expensive foreign car and I have a 5 year powertrain warranty so it uses the cheapest gas I find.
#35
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#36
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Most are little more than snake oil it seems, Toyota (and I guess more manufacturers) will deny a warranty clain if you've used Slick 50, the teflon does not stay in suspension and enventually clogs the oil system.
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