Do Mustangs really handle THAT bad ???
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Again, I beg the question, how are the poor-handling S197s doing so well in the Grand Am racing with inferior handling against Porsches and Beamers? Yes, I know these are not stock Mustangs, but neither are the Porsches and Beamers, I'm sure. I think the fact that they can even compete against these AWESOME HANDLING euro cars, which are priced significantly higher to begin with, speaks volumes about the Mustang.
However, the S197 is a very good performer given its price and place in the market.
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These mustangs handle a LOT better than my old 72 chevelle I had as a kid.
I felt the car push in corners and roll a good bit, but after I got my suspension stuff on, sway bars in the neutral setting.. wow what a difference a day makes.
It never handled badly, just differently from what I wanted, like everyone says.. it's subjective.
I felt the car push in corners and roll a good bit, but after I got my suspension stuff on, sway bars in the neutral setting.. wow what a difference a day makes.
It never handled badly, just differently from what I wanted, like everyone says.. it's subjective.
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[quote=Five Oh Brian;1078866]Worth noting, the FR500C Grand AM Cup Mustangs cost $125,000 turn-key. They are not cheap, relative to the standard $25K - $30K Mustang GT's at your local Ford dealer.
The FR500S is more affordable and even more comparable to our cars b/c they use the 3v engine, and the 5-speed manual. Yes, they are yet unproven on the track, and will mostly be used against one another, but they are suppsed to be available thru the FRPP catalog and should be adaptable to other road racing catergories.
Oh, & +1 on the "usually the driver"!! Put a great driver(Tommy Kendall, any Andretti) in a stock Mustang and joe shmoe in a M3/Porsche, and see which car wins!!
The FR500S is more affordable and even more comparable to our cars b/c they use the 3v engine, and the 5-speed manual. Yes, they are yet unproven on the track, and will mostly be used against one another, but they are suppsed to be available thru the FRPP catalog and should be adaptable to other road racing catergories.
Oh, & +1 on the "usually the driver"!! Put a great driver(Tommy Kendall, any Andretti) in a stock Mustang and joe shmoe in a M3/Porsche, and see which car wins!!
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[quote=hiznherponies;1079166]
The FR500S is supposed to sticker at $75K, with no VIN, and definately NOT in street trim. The last thing you want to do is drive a caged car on the street. The 500S is the spec car for the Mustang Challenge series, which requires a sealed engine, and NO other mods to the car.
If you're looking for a car to REALLY spank the competition, take a look at the Griggs GR40RT. 368HP 3-V (optional 547HP blown version) seam-welded body, 8pt cage, FIA-homologated seats and harnesses, onboard fire supression system, double-adjustable coilovers front and rear, ducted 4-piston brakes on all four corners, billet aluminum spindles (!), a SLA front suspension, Watts-link rear suspension with a torque arm, Boze 3-piece 18x10.5 forged wheels with 315/35-18 DOT-R competition tires, FUNCTIONAL aerodynamic splitter and spoiler, and all that for only $85K, a LOT less than a 911-GT3RS, the street version of the 997 cup race car. Instant American Iron or AIX competition car...
Worth noting, the FR500C Grand AM Cup Mustangs cost $125,000 turn-key. They are not cheap, relative to the standard $25K - $30K Mustang GT's at your local Ford dealer.
The FR500S is more affordable and even more comparable to our cars b/c they use the 3v engine, and the 5-speed manual. Yes, they are yet unproven on the track, and will mostly be used against one another, but they are suppsed to be available thru the FRPP catalog and should be adaptable to other road racing catergories.
The FR500S is more affordable and even more comparable to our cars b/c they use the 3v engine, and the 5-speed manual. Yes, they are yet unproven on the track, and will mostly be used against one another, but they are suppsed to be available thru the FRPP catalog and should be adaptable to other road racing catergories.
If you're looking for a car to REALLY spank the competition, take a look at the Griggs GR40RT. 368HP 3-V (optional 547HP blown version) seam-welded body, 8pt cage, FIA-homologated seats and harnesses, onboard fire supression system, double-adjustable coilovers front and rear, ducted 4-piston brakes on all four corners, billet aluminum spindles (!), a SLA front suspension, Watts-link rear suspension with a torque arm, Boze 3-piece 18x10.5 forged wheels with 315/35-18 DOT-R competition tires, FUNCTIONAL aerodynamic splitter and spoiler, and all that for only $85K, a LOT less than a 911-GT3RS, the street version of the 997 cup race car. Instant American Iron or AIX competition car...
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WOW!! I had not seen this Griggs set up before
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[QUOTE=SoundGuyDave;1079322]
The FR500S is supposed to sticker at $75K, with no VIN, and definately NOT in street trim. The last thing you want to do is drive a caged car on the street. The 500S is the spec car for the Mustang Challenge series, which requires a sealed engine, and NO other mods to the car.
If you're looking for a car to REALLY spank the competition, take a look at the Griggs GR40RT. 368HP 3-V (optional 547HP blown version) seam-welded body, 8pt cage, FIA-homologated seats and harnesses, onboard fire supression system, double-adjustable coilovers front and rear, ducted 4-piston brakes on all four corners, billet aluminum spindles (!), a SLA front suspension, Watts-link rear suspension with a torque arm, Boze 3-piece 18x10.5 forged wheels with 315/35-18 DOT-R competition tires, FUNCTIONAL aerodynamic splitter and spoiler, and all that for only $85K, a LOT less than a 911-GT3RS, the street version of the 997 cup race car. Instant American Iron or AIX competition car...
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[QUOTE=SoundGuyDave;1079322]
The FR500S is supposed to sticker at $75K, with no VIN, and definately NOT in street trim. The last thing you want to do is drive a caged car on the street. The 500S is the spec car for the Mustang Challenge series, which requires a sealed engine, and NO other mods to the car.
If you're looking for a car to REALLY spank the competition, take a look at the Griggs GR40RT. 368HP 3-V (optional 547HP blown version) seam-welded body, 8pt cage, FIA-homologated seats and harnesses, onboard fire supression system, double-adjustable coilovers front and rear, ducted 4-piston brakes on all four corners, billet aluminum spindles (!), a SLA front suspension, Watts-link rear suspension with a torque arm, Boze 3-piece 18x10.5 forged wheels with 315/35-18 DOT-R competition tires, FUNCTIONAL aerodynamic splitter and spoiler, and all that for only $85K, a LOT less than a 911-GT3RS, the street version of the 997 cup race car. Instant American Iron or AIX competition car...
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I still don't get why you're comparing a Mustang to a 997 Porsche. 
I have no idea what a 997 Porsche costs, but I'm guessing it's a bit more than a Mustang, even a modded Mustang. Please correct me if I'm wrong...
I'll make a similar comparison - how does a Porsche 997 handle compared to an IndyCar?
I have no idea what a 997 Porsche costs, but I'm guessing it's a bit more than a Mustang, even a modded Mustang. Please correct me if I'm wrong...I'll make a similar comparison - how does a Porsche 997 handle compared to an IndyCar?
I've surprised quite a few people on the road course using the FRPP kit. I don't think the ride is too harsh, but I'm 25...so my spine still has some spring in it 
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I have the H&R cup coilovers, it rides like a rock and handles 10x better then the stock stuff. but that being said, my 1977 911 turbo will run circles around it. Diffrent cars for Diffrent reasons. the mustang does drift/powerslide out of corners much better though...no weight on the a** end. lol
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