CAMBER / CASTER PLATES
8/19/22, 06:34 PM
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CAMBER / CASTER PLATES
OK so I need camber caster plates not sure which ones to get any insight anyone can give as to pros and cons of each would be great. I'm using Koni Yellow shock /Struts not sure if that matters. Thanks Mustang Family !
8/19/22, 07:35 PM
#2
You might want to get the alignment checked first,before buying the plates.I lowered mine I think like 1 1/2-1 3/4",I have the exact amount written down out in the garage.
I really thought I'd need the plates.After getting the alignment,it still looks to me like it's WAY off,but the super fancy machine showed it was well within specs.Almost perfect,in fact.
My man that did the work said that's the way Fords are,although all the other Fords,and every brand car,I've ever owned,didn't have the "Slammed Ricer Honda Civic" look.
My front wheels are bowed out so far it looks I've got about a ton of weight laying on the hood squishing it down.
Drives fine though,lol
I really thought I'd need the plates.After getting the alignment,it still looks to me like it's WAY off,but the super fancy machine showed it was well within specs.Almost perfect,in fact.
My man that did the work said that's the way Fords are,although all the other Fords,and every brand car,I've ever owned,didn't have the "Slammed Ricer Honda Civic" look.
My front wheels are bowed out so far it looks I've got about a ton of weight laying on the hood squishing it down.
Drives fine though,lol
8/20/22, 06:09 AM
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why do you want/need them?
are you trying to "correct" camber after lowering, or are you looking for extra (negative) camber for road track?
are you trying to "correct" camber after lowering, or are you looking for extra (negative) camber for road track?
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8/20/22, 10:42 AM
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Camber correction I my car pulls to the right so I took it in for an alignment check they found both my front tires worn on the inside edges I asked if the tow could be out but they said no and showed me the alignment results. They the service tech asked me if the car was lowered I of course said yes...ah he said then your going to need camber plates to fix this and some new tires.
8/21/22, 05:12 PM
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You didn't mention which lowering springs are installed...Therefore, It really depends on how much the car is lowered, as the dampers themselves have very little to do with affecting caster/camber...
For example, my car also has Koni yellow adjustable struts/shocks paired with Eibach pro springs, GT500 strut mounts and Eibach camber bolts.. My "06" GT is lowered approx 1.3" front and 1.5" rear...
All that was required for the alignment to be within Ford "OEM" specs was the addition of the Eibach camber bolts, as caster/camber plates were not necessary for my particular application...
That being said, before investing in caster/camber plates, make absolutely certain your vehicle is lowered beyond 1.5" front and rear... If it is? then I would highly recommend Maximum Motorsports caster/camber plates...
Link for Maximum Motorsports caster/camber plates is provided below...
https://www.maximummotorsports.com/2...ates-C652.aspx
For example, my car also has Koni yellow adjustable struts/shocks paired with Eibach pro springs, GT500 strut mounts and Eibach camber bolts.. My "06" GT is lowered approx 1.3" front and 1.5" rear...
All that was required for the alignment to be within Ford "OEM" specs was the addition of the Eibach camber bolts, as caster/camber plates were not necessary for my particular application...
That being said, before investing in caster/camber plates, make absolutely certain your vehicle is lowered beyond 1.5" front and rear... If it is? then I would highly recommend Maximum Motorsports caster/camber plates...
Link for Maximum Motorsports caster/camber plates is provided below...
https://www.maximummotorsports.com/2...ates-C652.aspx
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8/21/22, 06:20 PM
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Wow that was a lot of information sorry I didn't give my complete setup. So here the run down on my suspicion setup. My front setup is GT500 lower control arms Koni Yellow Struts GT500 strut mounts android performance front sway bar and swayer links. My rear setup consent of Ford performance rear sway bar with ford performance sway bar link kits, Koni Yellow shocks, Ford performance lower control arms. The car has ford performance lowering springs so it lowered 1" in the front & 11/2" in the rear. As for the Cam Bolts you have I've been warned NEVER to use them as they are worthless and can move upon hitting one hard bump or pot hole causing you to veer off the road suddenly.....thus they have been named Crash Bolts. I am thankful for you taking time to give me your advice but after listing to other opinions. I have ordered the Steeda Heavy Duty Camber & Caster Plates. From what I'm told they are very good. Now I just have to find some place to install them, you have any idea what a correct cost to do that would be ?
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8/22/22, 05:47 AM
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I believe you can reverse the GT500 mounts to reduce the negative camber, there are threads on here about that with the details, but I have not tried it myself
1" of lowering should put the camber borderline out of spec, around -0.7 degrees if I remember correctly -- did you get the alignment sheet from the alignment shop?
that minor camber generally will not produce real bad tire wear, so I suspect a different alignment issue, most likely toe as you mentioned earlier ... I am running a lot more negative camber than that, with no noticeable bad tire wear yet (but I haven't measured and haven't put a lot of miles on them yet either)
Steeda makes some relatively affordable "heavy duty strut mounts" that give about a degree of camber adjustment, Vorschlag caster/camber plates are about the nicest I have seen, but also relatively expensive.
1" of lowering should put the camber borderline out of spec, around -0.7 degrees if I remember correctly -- did you get the alignment sheet from the alignment shop?
that minor camber generally will not produce real bad tire wear, so I suspect a different alignment issue, most likely toe as you mentioned earlier ... I am running a lot more negative camber than that, with no noticeable bad tire wear yet (but I haven't measured and haven't put a lot of miles on them yet either)
Steeda makes some relatively affordable "heavy duty strut mounts" that give about a degree of camber adjustment, Vorschlag caster/camber plates are about the nicest I have seen, but also relatively expensive.
Last edited by Bert; 8/22/22 at 05:49 AM.
8/22/22, 05:02 PM
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Wow that was a lot of information sorry I didn't give my complete setup. So here the run down on my suspicion setup. My front setup is GT500 lower control arms Koni Yellow Struts GT500 strut mounts android performance front sway bar and swayer links. My rear setup consent of Ford performance rear sway bar with ford performance sway bar link kits, Koni Yellow shocks, Ford performance lower control arms. The car has ford performance lowering springs so it lowered 1" in the front & 11/2" in the rear. As for the Cam Bolts you have I've been warned NEVER to use them as they are worthless and can move upon hitting one hard bump or pot hole causing you to veer off the road suddenly.....thus they have been named Crash Bolts. I am thankful for you taking time to give me your advice but after listing to other opinions. I have ordered the Steeda Heavy Duty Camber & Caster Plates. From what I'm told they are very good. Now I just have to find some place to install them, you have any idea what a correct cost to do that would be ?
I've been running Eibach camber bolts for well over 9 years and have never encountered any negative issues whatsoever... As for hard bumps/pot holes go, we have plenty of them on our roads here in southwestern PA which are unavoidable... Therefore, my car has experienced more than it's share of those through the years... At any rate, if any of those claims were accurate, manufacturers such as Eibach and Steeda who also btw carry camber bolts in stock would be facing lawsuits related to camber bolts being responsible for causing vehicles to lose control, resulting in car crashes...
That being said, unless there is actual documentation to back up such claims, it is always recommended to take them with a grain of salt...
I believe you can reverse the GT500 mounts to reduce the negative camber, there are threads on here about that with the details, but I have not tried it myself
1" of lowering should put the camber borderline out of spec, around -0.7 degrees if I remember correctly -- did you get the alignment sheet from the alignment shop?
that minor camber generally will not produce real bad tire wear, so I suspect a different alignment issue, most likely toe as you mentioned earlier ... I am running a lot more negative camber than that, with no noticeable bad tire wear yet (but I haven't measured and haven't put a lot of miles on them yet either)
Steeda makes some relatively affordable "heavy duty strut mounts" that give about a degree of camber adjustment, Vorschlag caster/camber plates are about the nicest I have seen, but also relatively expensive.
1" of lowering should put the camber borderline out of spec, around -0.7 degrees if I remember correctly -- did you get the alignment sheet from the alignment shop?
that minor camber generally will not produce real bad tire wear, so I suspect a different alignment issue, most likely toe as you mentioned earlier ... I am running a lot more negative camber than that, with no noticeable bad tire wear yet (but I haven't measured and haven't put a lot of miles on them yet either)
Steeda makes some relatively affordable "heavy duty strut mounts" that give about a degree of camber adjustment, Vorschlag caster/camber plates are about the nicest I have seen, but also relatively expensive.
Left Front: -1.4 degrees camber
Caster : 7.2 degrees
Toe: 0.01 degrees
Right Front: -1.3 degrees camber
Caster: 7.3 degrees
Toe: 0.07 degrees
Front Total Toe: 0.08 degrees
Steer Ahead: -0.03 degrees
Left Rear: 0.0 degrees camber
Toe: -0.01 degrees
Right Rear: -0.1 degrees camber
Toe: -0.04 degrees
Rear Total Toe: -0.05 degrees
Thrust Angle: 0.02 degrees
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