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Originally posted by Stoopy@September 12, 2005, 2:41 PM
Well, this may not "help" specifically in terms of what's out there and how much it costs, but it'll help explain some of the reactions you may get.....
Stuff sticking out of the hood is like, the "iciing ion the cake" if you will.......it means you've got a WHOLE LOTTA goodies from stem to stern to back it up - a complete drivetrain package, if you will. at least, that's what most knowledgeable people would think and expect when they see a blower or whatever sticking up out of the hood.
That tunnel ram intake with the two carbs and velocity stacks pictured above is a perfect example. Tunnel rams intakes are notorious for being optimized for high-revving motors (they give more HP usually at the sacrifice of bottom-end torque). Generally speaking.
So most times you see a car with a tunnel ram, it's also got lower rear-end gears to go with it, to help get the motor up into it's effective RPM band quicker.
In generic terms, MANY things are like that - you change one thing, you need to go change something else to follow through or you don't get the benefits. And the people who notice it the most and will be the most inquisitive, are your fellow gear-heads. Expect to get many, many questions and comments for all the looks and double-takes you'll be generating.
The most common question you'll be asked is "what else are ya runnin' under there?", and if the answer is nothing, or not much, well, it'll be a bit of a letdown....so be prepared, if you care about that side of it.
Well, this may not "help" specifically in terms of what's out there and how much it costs, but it'll help explain some of the reactions you may get.....
Stuff sticking out of the hood is like, the "iciing ion the cake" if you will.......it means you've got a WHOLE LOTTA goodies from stem to stern to back it up - a complete drivetrain package, if you will. at least, that's what most knowledgeable people would think and expect when they see a blower or whatever sticking up out of the hood.
That tunnel ram intake with the two carbs and velocity stacks pictured above is a perfect example. Tunnel rams intakes are notorious for being optimized for high-revving motors (they give more HP usually at the sacrifice of bottom-end torque). Generally speaking.
So most times you see a car with a tunnel ram, it's also got lower rear-end gears to go with it, to help get the motor up into it's effective RPM band quicker.
In generic terms, MANY things are like that - you change one thing, you need to go change something else to follow through or you don't get the benefits. And the people who notice it the most and will be the most inquisitive, are your fellow gear-heads. Expect to get many, many questions and comments for all the looks and double-takes you'll be generating.
The most common question you'll be asked is "what else are ya runnin' under there?", and if the answer is nothing, or not much, well, it'll be a bit of a letdown....so be prepared, if you care about that side of it.
Honestly, I could care less what someone might think of my car. I mean, in the end, it IS my own baby, and I would be happy with just an intake sticking outta the hood. Yes, it would fantastic if done right, and it would also be a great intake...
I'm actually leaning toward doing something else...though. Maybe. Possibly. I'll keep it a surprise
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Originally posted by GhostGT@September 11, 2005, 9:09 PM
RICE? I don't know WHAT your thinking about...But who said I didn't want functionality??? Thats gonna be a custom intake if it sticks outta my hood.
AND...I think it would look awesome if done right.
RICE? I don't know WHAT your thinking about...But who said I didn't want functionality??? Thats gonna be a custom intake if it sticks outta my hood.
AND...I think it would look awesome if done right.
So yes, it would be somewhat functional to have that scoop as ram air, but it would not be functional to the point that it was originally designed for. Plus you could achieve the same effect in a lot less of a flashy package.
So it would almost be as bad as putting racing stickers on the car, they make the car look like its got serious modifications and power, when really its just an appearance item. (yes I know that it would be functional to an extent)
Originally posted by Stoopy@September 12, 2005, 1:41 PM
That tunnel ram intake with the two carbs and velocity stacks pictured above is a perfect example. Tunnel rams intakes are notorious for being optimized for high-revving motors (they give more HP usually at the sacrifice of bottom-end torque). Generally speaking.
So most times you see a car with a tunnel ram, it's also got lower rear-end gears to go with it, to help get the motor up into it's effective RPM band quicker.
That tunnel ram intake with the two carbs and velocity stacks pictured above is a perfect example. Tunnel rams intakes are notorious for being optimized for high-revving motors (they give more HP usually at the sacrifice of bottom-end torque). Generally speaking.
So most times you see a car with a tunnel ram, it's also got lower rear-end gears to go with it, to help get the motor up into it's effective RPM band quicker.
EDIT: Oh yea, I agree with those who believe that "all show and no go" is not a good thing.
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...Nothing else to say, lol.
IF I were to custom design an intake sticking outta the hood, its in no way shape or form gonna be HUGE and very high...its going to be something subtle....
As I've already mentioned, I disagree 100% with anyone who says it will be sorta ricey....I mean how can you compare it to Racing stickers don??? Its going to be something fully funtional....besides, I don't even have any of my engine mods yet. That doesn't mean there aren't going to be any. You guys are just assuming I want to bolt on something sticking out of the hood and say "HEY LOOK HERE!"
Anyway, thanks for the suggestions, comments, and whatever else anyone said...Again, IF I do this, you guys will hopefully THEN understand what I mean.
It wasn't me that compared it to stickers...
By the way, some day I will have an injector hat sticking through my hood... but underneath it will be a 671 blower, and as many cubic inches as I can stuff between the fender wells (514?).
By the way, some day I will have an injector hat sticking through my hood... but underneath it will be a 671 blower, and as many cubic inches as I can stuff between the fender wells (514?).
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Dynatek Racing has a manifold coming out first quarter of next year it has velocity stacks on it. It looks pretty cool. 
http://dynatekracing.com/default1.htm
Its at the bottom of the page.
http://dynatekracing.com/default1.htm
Its at the bottom of the page.
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Originally posted by don_w@September 12, 2005, 7:56 PM
Exactly, Stoopy!! That was a high-revving 351C motor. I had 12.5:1 pistons, a monster cam (I loved to hear it lope), roller rockers, race springs/titanium retainers, balanced/blueprinted, Hooker headers, etc. And, it had 4.50-something gears (can't remember if they were 4.56 or 4.57). It really came alive above 3500rpm and revved to over 8500rpm without even blinking. Dayum, I miss that car... <sniff>
EDIT: Oh yea, I agree with those who believe that "all show and no go" is not a good thing.
Exactly, Stoopy!! That was a high-revving 351C motor. I had 12.5:1 pistons, a monster cam (I loved to hear it lope), roller rockers, race springs/titanium retainers, balanced/blueprinted, Hooker headers, etc. And, it had 4.50-something gears (can't remember if they were 4.56 or 4.57). It really came alive above 3500rpm and revved to over 8500rpm without even blinking. Dayum, I miss that car... <sniff>
EDIT: Oh yea, I agree with those who believe that "all show and no go" is not a good thing.
Here's another example - if I can talk about one of my old mills too.... this kinda applies to this thread here as an example of how mods need to be followed up with other, unexpected stuff that you don't always think all the way through.....the third engine I built for my old '66 fastback started from a 289 block with a 302 steel forged crank. Installed 11:1 pistons and 351 Windsor heads (as you know, they're a bolt-on). Followed with an Isky cam (forget the specs), and Offenhauser high-rise with one 4Bbl (I used a Carter - long story!) and a Manley hi-volume oil pump. The idea was to build a small block that really "breathed". Sounds like an OK motor huh?
Swapped it into the car, which had a C4 auto ttrans and stock one-legger rear with freeway gears...whatever they were, they were high, I wanna say 2-point-something. Whatever an auto-equipped '66 V8 2-barrel Mustang came stock with. Almost forgot this part - I topped it off with a velocity stack, cut a hole in the hood and added a Shelby-style hood scoop.
I didn't care what anyone thought either. I had a beetchin' looking engine that looked sweet, sounded great and revved like no tomorrow. BUT, I soon learned why some guys were shaking their heads at my setup. Of course, the 351W heads with the larger combustion chambers took away some of the compression, and with the stock rear gears it was a TOTAL dog off the lline. I didn't care because I lived in the Mojave desert and I was more into top-end speed (and it definitely pegged that 140-MPH speedo pretty quick once you got up to speed). But overall it was a pretty lousy combo for stoplight and strip duty. With some follow-through and better planning I could have done much better for the time and money. All that great oil pressure from the fancy pump succeeded in blowing out the rear cam seal so I drove around for a while putting in a quart of oil every 30 miles and smoke coming off the headers.....with the nasty lop and smoke wafting up from underneath, few people came alongside me at stoplights!
Back in the day you coulda called my setup "rice" or "poser" if the term had existed and it would have been an accurate statement. Plenty of work in the engine compartment alone, but no follow-through on the rest of the drivetrain.
So...GhostGT that's all I was tryin' to say. Sounds like you don't want too many opinions from some of us - maybe just me - but really, if you're starting out modding and wrenching on your car, and you want functionality, and satisfaction, that's the point trying to be made here.......it not only pays to take some extra time and think your mods through, but to also listen to some of these old hands who do have your best interests at heart with their frank opinions, and you'll be greatly satisfied with the results. Hope you find that coolarino intake.
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Originally posted by Stoopy@September 13, 2005, 7:24 AM
Way cool! Thought I recognized that block as a Cleveland...and thats a very respectable motor you built, dayum indeed!
Here's another example - if I can talk about one of my old mills too.... this kinda applies to this thread here as an example of how mods need to be followed up with other, unexpected stuff that you don't always think all the way through.....the third engine I built for my old '66 fastback started from a 289 block with a 302 steel forged crank. Installed 11:1 pistons and 351 Windsor heads (as you know, they're a bolt-on). Followed with an Isky cam (forget the specs), and Offenhauser high-rise with one 4Bbl (I used a Carter - long story!) and a Manley hi-volume oil pump. The idea was to build a small block that really "breathed". Sounds like an OK motor huh?
Swapped it into the car, which had a C4 auto ttrans and stock one-legger rear with freeway gears...whatever they were, they were high, I wanna say 2-point-something. Whatever an auto-equipped '66 V8 2-barrel Mustang came stock with. Almost forgot this part - I topped it off with a velocity stack, cut a hole in the hood and added a Shelby-style hood scoop.
I didn't care what anyone thought either. I had a beetchin' looking engine that looked sweet, sounded great and revved like no tomorrow. BUT, I soon learned why some guys were shaking their heads at my setup. Of course, the 351W heads with the larger combustion chambers took away some of the compression, and with the stock rear gears it was a TOTAL dog off the lline. I didn't care because I lived in the Mojave desert and I was more into top-end speed (and it definitely pegged that 140-MPH speedo pretty quick once you got up to speed). But overall it was a pretty lousy combo for stoplight and strip duty. With some follow-through and better planning I could have done much better for the time and money. All that great oil pressure from the fancy pump succeeded in blowing out the rear cam seal so I drove around for a while putting in a quart of oil every 30 miles and smoke coming off the headers.....with the nasty lop and smoke wafting up from underneath, few people came alongside me at stoplights!
Back in the day you coulda called my setup "rice" or "poser" if the term had existed and it would have been an accurate statement. Plenty of work in the engine compartment alone, but no follow-through on the rest of the drivetrain.
So...GhostGT that's all I was tryin' to say. Sounds like you don't want too many opinions from some of us - maybe just me - but really, if you're starting out modding and wrenching on your car, and you want functionality, and satisfaction, that's the point trying to be made here.......it not only pays to take some extra time and think your mods through, but to also listen to some of these old hands who do have your best interests at heart with their frank opinions, and you'll be greatly satisfied with the results. Hope you find that coolarino intake.
Asta!
Way cool! Thought I recognized that block as a Cleveland...and thats a very respectable motor you built, dayum indeed!
Here's another example - if I can talk about one of my old mills too.... this kinda applies to this thread here as an example of how mods need to be followed up with other, unexpected stuff that you don't always think all the way through.....the third engine I built for my old '66 fastback started from a 289 block with a 302 steel forged crank. Installed 11:1 pistons and 351 Windsor heads (as you know, they're a bolt-on). Followed with an Isky cam (forget the specs), and Offenhauser high-rise with one 4Bbl (I used a Carter - long story!) and a Manley hi-volume oil pump. The idea was to build a small block that really "breathed". Sounds like an OK motor huh?
Swapped it into the car, which had a C4 auto ttrans and stock one-legger rear with freeway gears...whatever they were, they were high, I wanna say 2-point-something. Whatever an auto-equipped '66 V8 2-barrel Mustang came stock with. Almost forgot this part - I topped it off with a velocity stack, cut a hole in the hood and added a Shelby-style hood scoop.
I didn't care what anyone thought either. I had a beetchin' looking engine that looked sweet, sounded great and revved like no tomorrow. BUT, I soon learned why some guys were shaking their heads at my setup. Of course, the 351W heads with the larger combustion chambers took away some of the compression, and with the stock rear gears it was a TOTAL dog off the lline. I didn't care because I lived in the Mojave desert and I was more into top-end speed (and it definitely pegged that 140-MPH speedo pretty quick once you got up to speed). But overall it was a pretty lousy combo for stoplight and strip duty. With some follow-through and better planning I could have done much better for the time and money. All that great oil pressure from the fancy pump succeeded in blowing out the rear cam seal so I drove around for a while putting in a quart of oil every 30 miles and smoke coming off the headers.....with the nasty lop and smoke wafting up from underneath, few people came alongside me at stoplights!
Back in the day you coulda called my setup "rice" or "poser" if the term had existed and it would have been an accurate statement. Plenty of work in the engine compartment alone, but no follow-through on the rest of the drivetrain.
So...GhostGT that's all I was tryin' to say. Sounds like you don't want too many opinions from some of us - maybe just me - but really, if you're starting out modding and wrenching on your car, and you want functionality, and satisfaction, that's the point trying to be made here.......it not only pays to take some extra time and think your mods through, but to also listen to some of these old hands who do have your best interests at heart with their frank opinions, and you'll be greatly satisfied with the results. Hope you find that coolarino intake.
Asta!
Thanks for the reply, Stoopy.
It's not that I'm not listening to anyone here...trust me, your words came out loud and clear, and no w my excitement for doing something like this came down about 95%
.I took the words seriously and I did not ignore them...I have tons to learn here...and I'm taking any and all advice into consideration.
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Originally posted by GhostGT@September 12, 2005, 9:45 PM
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Nothing else to say, lol.
IF I were to custom design an intake sticking outta the hood, its in no way shape or form gonna be HUGE and very high...its going to be something subtle....
As I've already mentioned, I disagree 100% with anyone who says it will be sorta ricey....I mean how can you compare it to Racing stickers don??? Its going to be something fully funtional....besides, I don't even have any of my engine mods yet. That doesn't mean there aren't going to be any. You guys are just assuming I want to bolt on something sticking out of the hood and say "HEY LOOK HERE!"
Anyway, thanks for the suggestions, comments, and whatever else anyone said...
Again, IF I do this, you guys will hopefully THEN understand what I mean.
...Nothing else to say, lol.
IF I were to custom design an intake sticking outta the hood, its in no way shape or form gonna be HUGE and very high...its going to be something subtle....
As I've already mentioned, I disagree 100% with anyone who says it will be sorta ricey....I mean how can you compare it to Racing stickers don??? Its going to be something fully funtional....besides, I don't even have any of my engine mods yet. That doesn't mean there aren't going to be any. You guys are just assuming I want to bolt on something sticking out of the hood and say "HEY LOOK HERE!"
Anyway, thanks for the suggestions, comments, and whatever else anyone said...Again, IF I do this, you guys will hopefully THEN understand what I mean.
And also, remember those scoops were designed for engines that do not fit under the hood, the Mustang's does.
But, its your car, and do with it what you like
Ok I haven't fully finished reading everything but in general...
Adding a scoop like that to the 4.6L 3V would be more trouble than its worth. If you were doing and engine/tranny/driveline swap then it might be worth it. My suggestion, if you want the appearance without spending $10-20k more on your car would be to get the Shaker and have someone customize it to have the scoop you want on it. If you want to have the engine under the hood match what's sticking out of it, you'll be spending enough money to buy a 2nd car.
just my $0.02
Adding a scoop like that to the 4.6L 3V would be more trouble than its worth. If you were doing and engine/tranny/driveline swap then it might be worth it. My suggestion, if you want the appearance without spending $10-20k more on your car would be to get the Shaker and have someone customize it to have the scoop you want on it. If you want to have the engine under the hood match what's sticking out of it, you'll be spending enough money to buy a 2nd car.
just my $0.02
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Hmmm...OK, I can't say the "look" is for me but, hey, different strokes. I agree that it is a "hairy" and expensive proposition to add this as a functional element. Best I can come up with, cost/functionality wise is to go with the shaker system, purchase the scoop from Summit/Jegs/etc...and go to a fabricator to piece the two together. I'm not even sure how it might work, since I think the flaps on the scope are opened mechanically v. the '05s "drive-by-wire" set up. Maybe a solinioid that opens it at WOT like the air induction hood on my '80 Z28 did. Bottom line is that you are going to be spending a lot of $$$ for very little power gain, even a potential loss of power..might need a tuner like the diablo as well. I may be speaking out of turn, but it doesn't sound like you have the experieince just yet to for this to be a DYI project, so let's look at labor as well. This is off the top of my head using my buest guess on cost, so don't quote me, OK...plus I just took my ambiem so I may slurr my words a bit here...sorry. Here's you build list:
- Shaker system $600.00
-aluminum functional scoop $200.00
sub ttl $800.00
fabrication
-pairing the 2 pieces together $200-$600 (guessing $)
-functionality (solinoid systm) $100-$300 (see above)
-hood fab $200-$300 (if no painting)
sub ttl $500-$1200
Labor ( i sort of built in some labor on the fabrication portion, but the whole thing is going to have to come together, IMO at a well rounded shop, so expect additional labor charges for inslall...may be lots of trial and error to make it all work/fit)
additional labor $500-$1000
sub ttl $500-$1000
GRAND TTL $1800 - $3000
Since "I" "myself" "me" see this going toward the high side and wouldd even go so far as to add another 25% ($3750) into the budget, just for slop (some of these shops are NOT cheap, especially when fabricatioin is involved) Man, you got to ask yourself if it's worth it to you and you alone and know that you are spending the money for something you love and you are willing to never get that money back out of it (that's hot rodding, baby) IMHO...spend that $$$ on a super charger. Performance gaings pr/dollar spent are great v. other aftermarket bolt ons and in it's attention you want...you will be sitting at the local mall with you hood up showing that thing off so much you'll get sick of it...trust me, it like a beautiful women...leave something to the imagination and peopel will be dying to see what's under her shirt,errrr, hood, sorry
Do what is for you, but supercharger money w/littte if any gaings...come on dawg, you gotta be sctrathin that head (cranium, forgot about the anthropology study) by now.
You should do a poll...blower v. fabricating '60-'70 style scoop out the hood of an '05. Would be interesting.
PS I love the shaker as a stand alone piece...adds some function and looks like it fits right in with the lines of the car. Well, I have rambled enough...the '07 will be out when I'm done...they may come with a big ole hunk of polished aluminum sticking through the hood as standard equip!!!!
- Shaker system $600.00
-aluminum functional scoop $200.00
sub ttl $800.00
fabrication
-pairing the 2 pieces together $200-$600 (guessing $)
-functionality (solinoid systm) $100-$300 (see above)
-hood fab $200-$300 (if no painting)
sub ttl $500-$1200
Labor ( i sort of built in some labor on the fabrication portion, but the whole thing is going to have to come together, IMO at a well rounded shop, so expect additional labor charges for inslall...may be lots of trial and error to make it all work/fit)
additional labor $500-$1000
sub ttl $500-$1000
GRAND TTL $1800 - $3000
Since "I" "myself" "me" see this going toward the high side and wouldd even go so far as to add another 25% ($3750) into the budget, just for slop (some of these shops are NOT cheap, especially when fabricatioin is involved) Man, you got to ask yourself if it's worth it to you and you alone and know that you are spending the money for something you love and you are willing to never get that money back out of it (that's hot rodding, baby) IMHO...spend that $$$ on a super charger. Performance gaings pr/dollar spent are great v. other aftermarket bolt ons and in it's attention you want...you will be sitting at the local mall with you hood up showing that thing off so much you'll get sick of it...trust me, it like a beautiful women...leave something to the imagination and peopel will be dying to see what's under her shirt,errrr, hood, sorry
Do what is for you, but supercharger money w/littte if any gaings...come on dawg, you gotta be sctrathin that head (cranium, forgot about the anthropology study) by now.
You should do a poll...blower v. fabricating '60-'70 style scoop out the hood of an '05. Would be interesting.
PS I love the shaker as a stand alone piece...adds some function and looks like it fits right in with the lines of the car. Well, I have rambled enough...the '07 will be out when I'm done...they may come with a big ole hunk of polished aluminum sticking through the hood as standard equip!!!!
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enfynet beat me to the punch, as I was writing a manifesto of sorts but would you all agree if this is what he wants a modified shaker w/ the scoop he wants fab'd on would be most affordable, with functionality? Probably would need tuning too...Diablo at $400.
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Originally posted by jlb+September 14, 2005, 9:36 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jlb @ September 14, 2005, 9:36 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Hmmm...OK, I can't say the "look" is for me but, hey, different strokes. I agree that it is a "hairy" and expensive proposition to add this as a functional element. Best I can come up with, cost/functionality wise is to go with the shaker system, purchase the scoop from Summit/Jegs/etc...and go to a fabricator to piece the two together. I'm not even sure how it might work, since I think the flaps on the scope are opened mechanically v. the '05s "drive-by-wire" set up. Maybe a solinioid that opens it at WOT like the air induction hood on my '80 Z28 did. Bottom line is that you are going to be spending a lot of $$$ for very little power gain, even a potential loss of power..might need a tuner like the diablo as well. I may be speaking out of turn, but it doesn't sound like you have the experieince just yet to for this to be a DYI project, so let's look at labor as well. This is off the top of my head using my buest guess on cost, so don't quote me, OK...plus I just took my ambiem so I may slurr my words a bit here...sorry. Here's you build list:
- Shaker system $600.00
-aluminum functional scoop $200.00
sub ttl $800.00
fabrication
-pairing the 2 pieces together $200-$600 (guessing $)
-functionality (solinoid systm) $100-$300 (see above)
-hood fab $200-$300 (if no painting)
sub ttl $500-$1200
Labor ( i sort of built in some labor on the fabrication portion, but the whole thing is going to have to come together, IMO at a well rounded shop, so expect additional labor charges for inslall...may be lots of trial and error to make it all work/fit)
additional labor $500-$1000
sub ttl $500-$1000
GRAND TTL $1800 - $3000
Since "I" "myself" "me" see this going toward the high side and wouldd even go so far as to add another 25% ($3750) into the budget, just for slop (some of these shops are NOT cheap, especially when fabricatioin is involved) Man, you got to ask yourself if it's worth it to you and you alone and know that you are spending the money for something you love and you are willing to never get that money back out of it (that's hot rodding, baby) IMHO...spend that $$$ on a super charger. Performance gaings pr/dollar spent are great v. other aftermarket bolt ons and in it's attention you want...you will be sitting at the local mall with you hood up showing that thing off so much you'll get sick of it...trust me, it like a beautiful women...leave something to the imagination and peopel will be dying to see what's under her shirt,errrr, hood, sorry
Do what is for you, but supercharger money w/littte if any gaings...come on dawg, you gotta be sctrathin that head (cranium, forgot about the anthropology study) by now.
You should do a poll...blower v. fabricating '60-'70 style scoop out the hood of an '05. Would be interesting.
PS I love the shaker as a stand alone piece...adds some function and looks like it fits right in with the lines of the car. Well, I have rambled enough...the '07 will be out when I'm done...they may come with a big ole hunk of polished aluminum sticking through the hood as standard equip!!!!
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- Shaker system $600.00
-aluminum functional scoop $200.00
sub ttl $800.00
fabrication
-pairing the 2 pieces together $200-$600 (guessing $)
-functionality (solinoid systm) $100-$300 (see above)
-hood fab $200-$300 (if no painting)
sub ttl $500-$1200
Labor ( i sort of built in some labor on the fabrication portion, but the whole thing is going to have to come together, IMO at a well rounded shop, so expect additional labor charges for inslall...may be lots of trial and error to make it all work/fit)
additional labor $500-$1000
sub ttl $500-$1000
GRAND TTL $1800 - $3000
Since "I" "myself" "me" see this going toward the high side and wouldd even go so far as to add another 25% ($3750) into the budget, just for slop (some of these shops are NOT cheap, especially when fabricatioin is involved) Man, you got to ask yourself if it's worth it to you and you alone and know that you are spending the money for something you love and you are willing to never get that money back out of it (that's hot rodding, baby) IMHO...spend that $$$ on a super charger. Performance gaings pr/dollar spent are great v. other aftermarket bolt ons and in it's attention you want...you will be sitting at the local mall with you hood up showing that thing off so much you'll get sick of it...trust me, it like a beautiful women...leave something to the imagination and peopel will be dying to see what's under her shirt,errrr, hood, sorry
Do what is for you, but supercharger money w/littte if any gaings...come on dawg, you gotta be sctrathin that head (cranium, forgot about the anthropology study) by now.
You should do a poll...blower v. fabricating '60-'70 style scoop out the hood of an '05. Would be interesting.
PS I love the shaker as a stand alone piece...adds some function and looks like it fits right in with the lines of the car. Well, I have rambled enough...the '07 will be out when I'm done...they may come with a big ole hunk of polished aluminum sticking through the hood as standard equip!!!!
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enfynet beat me to the punch, as I was writing a manifesto of sorts but would you all agree if this is what he wants a modified shaker w/ the scoop he wants fab'd on would be most affordable, with functionality? Probably would need tuning too...Diablo at $400.
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As I stated a few days ago...that was what I was planning to do. Get a shaker and somehow modify it, whether it be painted...or with a funcional scoop added...
I guess as Christmas comes and goes, (and my birthday, same time) my ideas will start to become reality and I will show TMS what I'm planning. For now, I'll keep these photoshop pictures I've done to myself...
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Originally posted by Cleveland@October 8, 2005, 10:33 PM
BTW, I have decided to take on this project and I already know exactly how it can be done.
-Dan
BTW, I have decided to take on this project and I already know exactly how it can be done.
-Dan
Good.
I'll see how it goes.. I figured it wouldn't look as good as a shaker, so I got myself a laptop and a new monitor for my room. Down the road..though, anything is possible for me. Cleveland, if it goes good, I might copy you
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