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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 05:44 PM
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And dealerships do this regularly? I've never heard of a dealer doing this. Interesting.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 06:47 PM
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One thing that no one mentioned is that a tinner oil also improve power as well as fuel economy. I seriously doubt that anyone ( even a lab ) could tell 5w20 from 5w30 after it has been run a few hundred miles in an engine....

I will probably stick with 5W-20 and never worry about it because I change it every 3000 miles with a new filter. This is the key to good engine life. If you do this, you do not have to worry about synthetics or blends and it provides just as good protection and is less expensive to boot.

I participated in a test of four stroke outboards boat engines that get run at 6000rpm for extended periods of time. The net result of oil from amsoil to quaker state proved that there is virtualy no difference in engine wear when changed at short intervals.

Now if you are the kind of person who streatches the milage between oil changes to 5K+, you need a full synthetic because they take longer to break down.

The difference between 5W-20 and 5W-30 is so small, I doubt that engine life could be proven one way or the other....

If I make 150K miles, it will be time for forged internals and time to crank uo the boost anyway....

Anyway, that is my "opinion".....
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 08:17 AM
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Originally posted by TomServo92@June 3, 2005, 5:43 PM
All they need is sample of the oil in the engine at the time of failure to send to a testing lab.
I'm sorry man. But if you think a dealer is going to do that you're a friggin moron. I believe that ford has larger problems than replacing one engine. Like mass production warranty issues.

However, I am not a dealer and I don't work for Ford, so I may be way off.

But, in this case I will take logic over someone's half baked opinion.
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 08:25 AM
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Originally posted by tech@June 5, 2005, 9:20 AM
I'm sorry man. But if you think a dealer is going to do that you're a friggin moron. I believe that ford has larger problems than replacing one engine. Like mass production warranty issues.

However, I am not a dealer and I don't work for Ford, so I may be way off.

But, in this case I will take logic over someone's half baked opinion.
Whatever dude. The fact of the matter is this: the owner's manual clearly states that to protect your warranty, use the specified weight of oil that meets Ford spec - end of story. No amount of immature name-calling on your part is going to change the wording. Grow up and learn to deal with it.
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 08:32 AM
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Originally posted by TomServo92@June 5, 2005, 8:28 AM
Whatever dude. The fact of the matter is this: the owner's manual clearly states that to protect your warranty, use the specified weight of oil that meets Ford spec - end of story. No amount of immature name-calling on your part is going to change the wording. Grow up and learn to deal with it.

Listen pal. You have no logic, end of story. I don't care what the manual says because I know you probably own about 50 products right now that you are in void of it's warranty. People have been using different weight oils in cars because of seasonal changes since the inception of the internal combustion engine. So, how about you grow up and use you brain.

I seriously don't want to hear any more from you. Just read the post, take it with a grain of salt and go voice your uneducated opinions somewhere else.
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 08:44 AM
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Originally posted by tech@June 5, 2005, 9:35 AM
Listen pal. You have no logic, end of story. I don't care what the manual says because I know you probably own about 50 products right now that you are in void of it's warranty. People have been using different weight oils in cars because of seasonal changes since the inception of the internal combustion engine. So, how about you grow up and use you brain.

I seriously don't want to hear any more from you. Just read the post, take it with a grain of salt and go voice your uneducated opinions somewhere else.
Let's apply a little logic here, since that's what you want:

1. The owners manual says use 5W20 to protect your warranty

2. 5W20 is readily in a variety of name brands including synthetic

3. 5W20 is no more expensive than other weight oils

So tell me, where's the logic in using another weight? Hmmmm? Lay it out for me in a logical manner to convince me there's a good reason for using something other than what is specified by Ford. Otherwise, I'll can only assume you're the one spouting uneducated opinions.
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 08:52 AM
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Originally posted by TomServo92@June 5, 2005, 8:47 AM
Let's apply a little logic here, since that's what you want:

1. The owners manual says use 5W20 to protect your warranty

2. 5W20 is readily in a variety of name brands including synthetic

3. 5W20 is no more expensive than other weight oils

So tell me, where's the logic in using another weight? Hmmmm? Lay it out for me in a logical manner to convince me there's a good reason for using something other than what is specified by Ford. Otherwise, I'll can only assume you're the one spouting uneducated opinions.

When I bought the oil they didn't have 5w-20 in synthetic. I wanted synthetic, so I bought synthetic (5w-30). I'm defending my choice with a reputable source and proof that my choice won't cause engine damage.

Sounds pretty logical to me. I thought I told you to stop talking.
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 09:06 AM
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Originally posted by tech@June 5, 2005, 9:55 AM
Sounds pretty logical to me. I thought I told you to stop talking.
You only want to stop talking because what I say makes more sense than what you say.

BTW, last time I checked, you aren't a forum mod. Stop trying to be one. It only makes you look arrogant and stupid. Also, if you notice next to my name, it says "Team Mustang Source Member", which means I've actually paid money to this site to help support it. If you don't like what I have to say, too bad. Unlike you, I've paid for the right to voice my opinion on this site. You don't see me telling you to shut up because I disagree with you. I only post my differing opinion in a mature manner. It seems that you can't reply in a like manner.
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by TomServo92@June 5, 2005, 9:09 AM
You only want to stop talking because what I say makes more sense than what you say.

BTW, last time I checked, you aren't a forum mod. Stop trying to be one. It only makes you look arrogant and stupid. Also, if you notice next to my name, it says "Team Mustang Source Member", which means I've actually paid money to this site to help support it. If you don't like what I have to say, too bad. Unlike you, I've paid for the right to voice my opinion on this site. You don't see me telling you to shut up because I disagree with you. I only post my differing opinion in a mature manner. It seems that you can't reply in a like manner.
Man, you just won't stop will you. Wow, you paid money :worship: , good for you. You support this site with you're meaningless arguments. I noticed that you don't own the car you are talking about. So did you find a copy of the warranty online and read through it just so you could try and seem intelligent and important. What a piece of work you are, I fear for your children. Have a nice life "Team Mustang Source Member" :worship:
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by tech@June 5, 2005, 11:45 AM
Man, you just won't stop will you. Wow, you paid money :worship: , good for you. You support this site with you're meaningless arguments. I noticed that you don't own the car you are talking about. So did you find a copy of the warranty online and read through it just so you could try and seem intelligent and important. What a piece of work you are, I fear for your children. Have a nice life "Team Mustang Source Member" :worship:
Check my sig for what I've owned in the past and you'll see I've owned and maintained quite a few performance vehicles. Just because I don't currently own an '05 doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about. To make that argument against me just shows you have no legitimate counterpoint to make. Also, making personal commentary about me or how I maintain my cars is just another indication that you love to talk about things of which you know nothing. Since you seem concerned about it, 5W20 is also the recommended oil for my current car.

This has gotten pretty lame so let's sum this up shall we: When confronted with a logical argument as to why you should use 5W20, you replied:

When I bought the oil they didn't have 5w-20 in synthetic. I wanted synthetic, so I bought synthetic (5w-30). I'm defending my choice with a reputable source and proof that my choice won't cause engine damage.
Am I reading that wrong or did you say you planned on getting 5W20? For the record, I don't think it's a problem to substitute 5W30 in lieu of 5W20 for one oil change. Clean 5W30 is better than dirty oil any day. But switching to a non-recommended oil for the life of the engine is a bad decision in my book. 5W20 is the recommended oil for many new vehicles and not just ones from Ford. Did you ever consider there's a reason for that? You espouse the use of a non-recommended weight of oil and provide no logical reason for it yet I'm the one making meaningless arguments?

One more thing: As for my children, I have one daughter and she's a straight A student (like her father) and is in the advanced magnet program at her school. I have absolutely no fear for my child. She's doing just fine so don't concern yourself.
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by TomServo92@June 5, 2005, 11:08 AM
Check my sig for what I've owned in the past and you'll see I've owned and maintained quite a few performance vehicles. Just because I don't currently own an '05 doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about. To make that argument against me just shows you have no legitimate counterpoint to make. Also, making personal commentary about me or how I maintain my cars is just another indication that you love to talk about things of which you know nothing. Since you seem concerned about it, 5W20 is also the recommended oil for my current car.

This has gotten pretty lame so let's sum this up shall we: When confronted with a logical argument as to why you should use 5W20, you replied:
Am I reading that wrong or did you say you planned on getting 5W20? For the record, I don't think it's a problem to substitute 5W30 in lieu of 5W20 for one oil change. Clean 5W30 is better than dirty oil any day. But switching to a non-recommended oil for the life of the engine is a bad decision in my book. 5W20 is the recommended oil for many new vehicles and not just ones from Ford. Did you ever consider there's a reason for that? You espouse the use of a non-recommended weight of oil and provide no logical reason for it yet I'm the one making meaningless arguments?

One more thing: As for my children, I have one daughter and she's a straight A student (like her father) and is in the advanced magnet program at her school. I have absolutely no fear for my child. She's doing just fine so don't concern yourself.
You really like talking about yourself, so I'll leave you with that. I hope she isn't as obnoxiously annoying as you, or she'll be a lonely, lonely girl. Watch out sweetheart, daddy is a d-bag.....
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by tech@June 5, 2005, 3:01 PM
You really like talking about yourself, so I'll leave you with that. I hope she isn't as obnoxiously annoying as you, or she'll be a lonely, lonely girl. Watch out sweetheart, daddy is a d-bag.....
More immature insults. I guess not knowing what you're talking about leaves you with nothing else to say.

This is lame so I tell you what: I'm done with this thread. I've posted my opinions and you have yet to respond with anything except childish gibberish. Everything I've said stands up on its on and requires no further comment from me. I'm confident (and man) enough to refrain from further comment and leave you with the last word. So go ahead, make your sophomoric little insults and immature personal attacks all you want. All you're going to prove is that you have nothing to add to this thread (or this forum for that matter) except more useless garbage. :notnice:
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by TomServo92@June 5, 2005, 2:29 PM
More immature insults. I guess not knowing what you're talking about leaves you with nothing else to say.

This is lame so I tell you what: I'm done with this thread. I've posted my opinions and you have yet to respond with anything except childish gibberish. Everything I've said stands up on its on and requires no further comment from me. I'm confident (and man) enough to refrain from further comment and leave you with the last word. So go ahead, make your sophomoric little insults and immature personal attacks all you want. All you're going to prove is that you have nothing to add to this thread (or this forum for that matter) except more useless garbage. :notnice:

Oh, and you're right, I'm nothing in the world without this forum, It's my life. :scratch: I gave you your stinkin' answer buddy, you seem to have forgotten that. Using the 5w-30 won't void your warranty, and I've proved that. The childish remarks are fueled by your utter stupidity, and your gullability for that matter. You're done.....
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by tech+June 5, 2005, 4:47 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(tech @ June 5, 2005, 4:47 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>... Using the 5w-30 won't void your warranty, and I've proved that. ...[/b]


An interesting assertion, especially considering the following statement.

<!--QuoteBegin-tech
@June 5, 2005, 10:30 AM
..., screw what the warranty guide says. ...

Warranties seem to always try and catch people with their pants down, and this one obviously has you by the *****.
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 03:45 PM
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I'm sorry, I said I wouldn't post anymore but I just have to say, good point Boss!!!
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