JedCranium

Looks pretty sweet to me...

Jed

Slims00ls1z28

Lol


This one is hotter anyway.

97GT03SVT

Well the big three sure have a legit competitor in the new 09' Nissan 370Z. It has a base price under 30k, does 0-60 under 5 sec. and runs the 1/4 in just 13.3!

97GT03SVT

you can polish a turd, but it's still just a turd!

stangfoeva

5.1 seconds according to Edmunds

Black GT500

Maybe in some Bizarro world...




I'll take the redhead.

97GT03SVT

I was going by Motor Trend. It had the new 370Z on the cover....... 0-60 in 4.7 and 1/4 in 13.3. Very impressive numbers for about the same price as a Mustang GT. I like the Mustang more but I do see it being outperformed by the new Nissan and Camaro.

97GT03SVT

Here's something to think about. Motor Trend just did a road test on the new GXP G8 and the results are starling. This car has a slightly detuned (415HP/415TQ) 6.2 and is basically a heavier Camaro chassis.

0-60 in 4.5

1/4 in 13.00!

You figure add 7HP, 15TQ and subtract about 150-200lbs and you get a bone stock SS Camaro hitting 12s and nipping at the heals of our beloved GT500? I feel it is quite a possible. I'd say the SS will hit 12.7- 12.9....

m05fastbackGT

And here's something else to think about, The G8 is also getting the axe !

97GT03SVT

My point is that this car has some impressive numbers. It's a shame that BMW driving yuppies never give domestics a chance. This car should be a top seller! A car that gives M5 performance for a fraction of the cost and flat out crushes the Charger.

The G8 getting the axe, if true is a bad thing. If cars this great can fall out of production with little to no chance to compete, then I see ALL muscle cars in some serious danger!

m05fastbackGT

Here ya go, Phil.


http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showthread.php?t=473933

97GT03SVT

Thats a bummer, I guess all hopes of Ford importing the Aussie Falcon are dashed away.

jsaylor

I hear you, but in all honesty I can't blame the BMW driving yuppies at this point. GM has tried very, very hard over the decades to make sure that having a red arrowhead on the front of anything automatically devalues the product by cranking out crappy Pontiac after crappy Pontiac. With the G8 they have simply proven that you actually can devalue a brand to such an extent that a great car at a great price simply has next to no effect on customer interest.

Throw in the fact that, to be blunt, the styling is fairly invisible (yeah, I know, a lot of folks on the internet love it....that doesn't appear to be helping) and the writing was on the wall before the car ever touched a dealership lot. Throw some Infiniti hand-me-down styling cues at it and call it a Maxima and Nissan would easily sell twice as many with no rebates....and likely a lot more than that.

To put it plainly. I honestly don't know why GM is still talking about killing Pontiac, they managed that some time ago.

jsaylor

If GRWD survives you'll get your mid to full-size, rwd, sport-luxury sedan.....but it wont be designed in Australia.

Truth411

Hello guys, this is my first time posting. I am a Camaro fan, I know this is a mustang Site, so there is going to obviously be bias in many posts. But I don't think many of you guys are giving the Camaro the credit it deserves, Everybody knows the Camaro is going to whip the 2010 mustang like a red headed step child both V6 and V8. External looks are subjective, But I will say this that the camaro looks waaaaaaaaaaay better in person than in photos it is freakin awesome. I have seen that many of you guys don't like the interior, I think it needs to be said that all the interor photos that has been seen are not production. We are begining to see close to production interiors now, go to camaro5.com to see them, it is very nice.

m05fastbackGT

Well I guess you haven't heard, Camaro fanboy. The Mustang 2011MY, will be getting a new 400HP 5.0L 4v next year. So enjoy your bragging rights while you can, because once the 2011 Mustang hits the streets in 2010. It will be the Mustang doing the whipping like a red headed step child, both V6 and V8

future9er24

if you're going to come to a mustang board, touting faux politeness and civility, at least do a thorough job. that comment was clearly aimed at getting a rise out of some other members and starting some sort of argument.

most of your post is alright, but anyone with half a brain could tell your comment was pointed. if you want to be civil and have a good discussion, go right ahead. but remember this is a mustang board. if you want to be treated with respect, make sure you're giving it too

we don't like trolls here, so either clean up or get gone.

and PS

I actually like the camaro, save for the weight issue. I like the look of the outside, and im a fan of the interior as well. If the 2010 Mustang refresh didn't impress me so much, I'd be wishing for a Camaro for my next car

max2000jp

I don't know about that. Here is a quick look at hp/lbs.


Mustang 8.875 (3550/400)
Camaro 8.976744 (3860/430)

Now my guess is the 2011 with the 5.0L and 6 speed will gain a bit of weight too. It should be very close when the smoke settles.

Zastava_101

Then again, Camaro SS is a top of the line Camaro and you can always upgrade from a Mustang GT to a Shelby.

Zastava_101

Its still a V6 though.