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2000 Cobra R vs. 2004 Cobra

Old Jun 3, 2005 | 01:45 PM
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One of the issues with supercharging the '00R is that there aren't any specific kits for it.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 01:53 PM
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R - because it's so rare.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 04:47 PM
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if the upgraded KB 04 snake has so much power, why not put it onto the R and about the lack of kits for the R, well, if you can afford an R, you can afford a custom blower setup.

me? R hands down. more cubes, more potential, looks waaay better, and on top of all that, its ultra rare!

BTW, does the R have IRS. personally i dont care, but im just wondering.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 05:22 PM
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I found this interesting:

Cobra R:

Price: $55,000
Miles Per Gallon: 13/18 mpg
Curb Weight: 3590 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Engine
Type: V8
Displacement: 5409 cc
Horsepower: 385 bhp @ 6250 rpm
Torque: 385 lb-ft @ 4250 rpm
Redline: 6500 rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 4.5 sec
0-100 mph: 10.5 sec
Quarter Mile: 12.9 sec @ 113 mph
Skidpad: 1.01g
Top Speed: 175 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: 115 ft
Slalom Speed: 69.3 mph


2004 Cobra:

General Information
Price: $--,---
Miles Per Gallon: 16/24 mpg
Curb Weight: 3665 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Engine
Type: Supercharged V8
Displacement: 4601 cc
Horsepower: 390 bhp @ 6000 rpm
Torque: 390 lb-ft @ 3500 rpm
Redline: 6500 rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 4.5 sec
0-100 mph: 10.4 sec
Quarter Mile: 12.6 sec @ 112 mph
Skidpad: .90g
Top Speed: 155 mph (limited)
Braking, 60-0 mph: --- ft
Slalom Speed: --.- mph

They are very close as you can see. The 03 Cobra was exactly the same as the 00 R Definetely a drivers race!
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 08:34 PM
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both have the IRS
funny how all the lack of options and 70lbs difference
as for the blower, put a Navigator blower on it with a custom intake tube
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 08:39 PM
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Originally posted by bigred0383+June 3, 2005, 2:33 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bigred0383 @ June 3, 2005, 2:33 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>How exactly do you get those numbers?

Now I am not a rocket scientist, and I don't play one on tv, but if the cars have the same basic engine design, (modular V8 with same overhead design) doesn't it make sense that the car with the bigger displacement make more potential power?
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not if one motor has a stronger bottom end or is designed better than the other.

Originally posted by holderca1@June 3, 2005, 2:35 PM
Yeah, that's the exact same thing you said the first time. Where are you getting those numbers. Those numbers don't make sense.
kenne bell cobra dynos, look em up, and i am a good predicter, i take the gains from say a GT with a kenne bell, like if it added 200rwhp, i figure it for the motor i am guesstimating it on and go from their

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That's what I was thinking.
'04 Cobra - s/c 4.6L - 390 hp
'00 Cobra R - n/a 5.4L - 385 hp
Take the blower off the Cobra and its making quite a bit less than the Cobra R, so I am not understanding why if you put a supercharger on both, how the Cobra would pass the Cobra R.
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the cobra has more potenetial and has a stronger bottom end. The cobra also had free flowing heads and blower cams. and the eaton on the 03-04 is restrictive and the kenne bell while both at 13psi makes something like 35rwhp because its more efficient
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 08:49 PM
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Originally posted by Fordracing200@June 3, 2005, 8:42 PM
kenne bell cobra dynos, look em up, and i am a good predicter, i take the gains from say a GT with a kenne bell, like if it added 200rwhp, i figure it for the motor i am guesstimating it on and go from their
Ummm, no, you posted the numbers, you provide the source. So using your 200 hp theory, I see where you get the 585 for the Cobra R, 385 + 200. But for the Cobra, you put down 686, the numbers don't add up, starting at 390, you have to subtract some since you are taking the stock supercharger off, then add 200. So being generous that would be 550. Where do you get 686?
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 08:53 PM
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a 2.4 kenne bell is larger and more efficent then stock, the 686 is what i have seen with the 2.4
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 08:59 PM
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Did a quick search on the Kenne Bell in the '03 Cobra and found a article on 5.0 Mustangs and from the dyno numbers the Kenne Bell only added about 100 rwhp over stock.

Edit: Here is the dyno numbers from the article.
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 10:16 AM
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more like 130rwhp and what size kb and how much boost did they use?
but i am porbably not being fair because i figured the cobra a bigger blower and a few extra psi.
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 10:16 AM
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stupid fricken double post, why do these keep happening??????
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 06:13 PM
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I'll take the 04 cobra just because it has air.My parents old car did't have air and it was crazy hot in the summer.
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 07:46 PM
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the R SHOULD of had air from the factory
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 08:08 AM
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No it shouldn't have air conditioning, it's a race car. How many race cars do you know of that have air conditioning? What do you think the R stands for? Really, I doubt anyone is using a Cobra R as a daily driver, if you were lucky enough(and wealthy enough) to get one of these rare vehicles, it is probably sitting in the garage between trips to the track.
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by holderca1@June 6, 2005, 8:11 AM
No it shouldn't have air conditioning, it's a race car. How many race cars do you know of that have air conditioning? What do you think the R stands for? Really, I doubt anyone is using a Cobra R as a daily driver, if you were lucky enough(and wealthy enough) to get one of these rare vehicles, it is probably sitting in the garage between trips to the track.
Thats the exact reason I voted for the 2004 cobra because you cant have fun in it unless you are at the track.With the 2004 cobra you can drive it on a regular basis and still take it to the track when you want.
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 06:10 PM
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A/C who needs A/C, you've got power windows, get over it
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 06:58 PM
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Originally posted by future9er24@June 6, 2005, 6:13 PM
A/C who needs A/C, you've got power windows, get over it
But I can't,windows don't help when its 90 degrees outside.Im just that kind of guy that has to have air on him when he is driving.My mom doesnt like to ride with me when I'm in my truck because I get it so cold.
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 07:34 PM
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 12:11 AM
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the R didnt have any options, and that includes power windows.
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by Fordracing200@June 7, 2005, 12:14 AM
the R didnt have any options, and that includes power windows.
The 2000 R did have power windows.The 95 didn't.
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