Dave,

Can you please provide the source that would lead you to believe that Multimatic is building the engines in the boss 302R? I'd be very interested in seeing that.

I'm not saying that there aren't aftermarket parts on the Mustang as everyone know that all the cars have modified parts on them. What I am saying is that is it impressive how many stock Mustang/Ford part are used which says a lot for the quality and strength of the Ford parts.

Is there a car that runs in GS that doesn't have rear coil overs? There might be but I'm not familiar with one so what's the point?

I'm impressive that a $130k Mustang is keeping up with $250k BMW's.

That's all.....I thought this was a friendly discussion but you seem to be getting pretty defensive here.

 

The link is actually in one of the pervious responses...here. Go to pg.5.

http://204.12.108.2/assets/SportsCar...ions201101.pdf

The engines are provided by Rousch Yates Racing Engines to Mutlimatic. Once again here's another concession. They are letting the Mustang use an engine that isn't even in production yet. The Boss302R motor isn't even going to be released to the public until this month, yet they have been racing with this engine now going on 2 seasons. Previously they were using the 5.0L Cammer motor when the 4.6 3V was the engine in a Mustang.



Also, I am not getting defensive..if it seems that way I apologize.

Regarding the rear coilovers...you just made my point. The other cars stock come with rear coilovers as most of the Mustangs competitors are IRS. This is another concession to keep the Mustang competitive.

BTW, I too am impressed on what the Mustang is accomplishing. However, the Mustang has more given to it than the M3, as it probably should due to the fact of the aforementioned price to keep the Mustang competitive.

I am torn between the 2 when I see these races, as I currently own a E92 M3 but I also love Mustangs. Thats why I'm on this board. BTW, look at my previous rides. If and when I will get out of my E92 M3 it will probably back into a Mustang in 2013 or 14 as BMW is ditching normally aspirated high revving powerplants for TT I6's in the next M3.

Dave

 

Page 6 is the Boss 302R, right?

I don't disagree with you on the 2005-2009 car but that's not the subject of this discussion is it?

RYR seals a 100% stock motor as required by the rules. RYR doesn't even crack the factory motor open. Read the rules on the BMW engine requirements and you'll find they are MUCH more open.




I don't understand what you are saying. Is this a picture of the underside of an E92 BMW? If so do you see factory rear coil overs on it? I don't, I see a seperate coil and strut. The GS BMW's have coil overs in the rear just like everyone else. Admittedly you are probably more familiar with the stock BMW rear suspension so please tell correct me if I am wrong.




Please provide details of what makes you think the Mustang has been "given" more to make it competitive.

Last comment I'll make on this is that if you think the racing Bosch system is not a competitive advantage I don't think you understand the capabilities of the system. You are also very confused about the Bosch systems application chart for the Mustang. That application is for the GT class, not the GS class. You understand that the GT cars are a tube frame chassis and have nothing in common with GS, right? So what is your point for bringing this up?

 

Listen M, I'm not into internet arguing. I wish I didn't even post this...

Dave

 

Ok, let's call it a draw and move on!