Ponies on The Run!
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FYI to the POTR fellas, I'll be selling off a couple mods when the SC goes in.
- C&L Racer: Bought new last June, maybe 800 miles on it.
- Steeda UDP's: same as C&L
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Bill - I want to get it asap... But I have been busy with work 
soon as I get the time I will swing by. 
I'm hoping for tomorrow. Thanks again for letting me
borrow it. Really like the look and feel. Just want to compare it to the satin ****. After that, on to ordering the mgw short shifter AND some stingers anyone know where I can get the best deal?
Jed - cannot call my car quite anymore
Jon and Bill - glad to hear the twins
are due march 1st
the SOS guage pillar looks 
soon as I get the time I will swing by. I'm hoping for tomorrow. Thanks again for letting meborrow it. Really like the look and feel. Just want to compare it to the satin ****. After that, on to ordering the mgw short shifter AND some stingers
anyone know where I can get the best deal?Jed - cannot call my car quite anymore
Jon and Bill - glad to hear the twins
are due march 1st
the SOS guage pillar looks
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Thanks! Yep... just about 3 months! Sound about right, Bill??
You can see the difference in what you can see of the fins... now you can't see that as easily any more:
Attachment 39618
You can see the difference in what you can see of the fins... now you can't see that as easily any more:
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Your going to need a SCT/Tune from Doug or Brent to go with it.
Looks like the PJ's getting modded slowly but surely.
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Bill - I want to get it asap... But I have been busy with work soon as I get the time I will swing by. I'm hoping for tomorrow. Thanks again for letting me
borrow it. Really like the look and feel. Just want to compare it to the satin ****. After that, on to ordering the mgw short shifter AND some stingers anyone know where I can get the best deal?
Jed - cannot call my car quite anymore
soon as I get the time I will swing by. I'm hoping for tomorrow. Thanks again for letting meborrow it. Really like the look and feel. Just want to compare it to the satin ****. After that, on to ordering the mgw short shifter AND some stingers
anyone know where I can get the best deal?Jed - cannot call my car quite anymore
Kevin was the reason I got my O/R H he kept calling my car a kitten.
new plan... Stingers AND o/r h 
Great guys! Looks like they may never make it to the 'For Sale' thread.
No problem Luis. At worst, I can give it to you on Saturday.
Like Leo mentioned, MGW is pretty set on pricing, just have to decide which threads you want, SAE or Metric, or the all-in-one Classic ****.
On the Stingers, it's a hit and miss in the For Sale thread. New, expect over 4 bills for them. FWIW, I got mine from Downs Ford.
That's right! Good reminder Leo.
Add another $400 to the C&L George. Brenspeed - BamaChips
Leo's kitten is all grown up now.
Like Leo mentioned, MGW is pretty set on pricing, just have to decide which threads you want, SAE or Metric, or the all-in-one Classic ****.
On the Stingers, it's a hit and miss in the For Sale thread. New, expect over 4 bills for them. FWIW, I got mine from Downs Ford.
That's right! Good reminder Leo.
Add another $400 to the C&L George. Brenspeed - BamaChips
Leo's kitten is all grown up now.
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http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showth...36#post1108336
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O/R H for sale. (If I remember correctly Brian has one for sale too.)
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showth...36#post1108336
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showth...36#post1108336
Brian's has been all over the country...
That tool that sheared his intake manifold bolt from the other Forum just replied...
ok, well you should mention that its 18 ft pounds bc thats more common of a tool and for car noobies like me tryin to do this we broke that bolt, not ur fault but its ours, but u should still add it so no one else makes the mistake i did.
My response (I've lost my patience):
Dude, with all due respect, no one else snapped these bolts from my instructions because they all knew the difference between lbs-in and lbs-ft. This is exactly how the Service Manual calls out the torque. Besides, even if you didn't know how to read the inch/pound abbreviation, common sense would tell you that 89 foot pounds is waaaay too much for those small bolts; to put it into perspective, our aluminum wheel lug nuts get torqued to 90 foot pounds.. see the difference?
FWIW, you're still incorrect in calculating that the intake manifold bolts get torqued to 18 lbs-ft, that equates to 216 lbs-in.. probably would snap the bolt again. To calculate the correct torque of 89 lbs-in into foot pounds, you have to divide that value by 12 which would be 7.4 lbs-ft.
TB
ok, well you should mention that its 18 ft pounds bc thats more common of a tool and for car noobies like me tryin to do this we broke that bolt, not ur fault but its ours, but u should still add it so no one else makes the mistake i did.
My response (I've lost my patience
):Dude, with all due respect, no one else snapped these bolts from my instructions because they all knew the difference between lbs-in and lbs-ft. This is exactly how the Service Manual calls out the torque. Besides, even if you didn't know how to read the inch/pound abbreviation, common sense would tell you that 89 foot pounds is waaaay too much for those small bolts; to put it into perspective, our aluminum wheel lug nuts get torqued to 90 foot pounds.. see the difference?
FWIW, you're still incorrect in calculating that the intake manifold bolts get torqued to 18 lbs-ft, that equates to 216 lbs-in.. probably would snap the bolt again. To calculate the correct torque of 89 lbs-in into foot pounds, you have to divide that value by 12 which would be 7.4 lbs-ft.
TB
Tom's just whimpy.
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That tool that sheared his intake manifold bolt from the other Forum just replied...
ok, well you should mention that its 18 ft pounds bc thats more common of a tool and for car noobies like me tryin to do this we broke that bolt, not ur fault but its ours, but u should still add it so no one else makes the mistake i did.
My response (I've lost my patience):
Dude, with all due respect, no one else snapped these bolts from my instructions because they all knew the difference between lbs-in and lbs-ft. This is exactly how the Service Manual calls out the torque. Besides, even if you didn't know how to read the inch/pound abbreviation, common sense would tell you that 89 foot pounds is waaaay too much for those small bolts; to put it into perspective, our aluminum wheel lug nuts get torqued to 90 foot pounds.. see the difference?
FWIW, you're still incorrect in calculating that the intake manifold bolts get torqued to 18 lbs-ft, that equates to 216 lbs-in.. probably would snap the bolt again. To calculate the correct torque of 89 lbs-in into foot pounds, you have to divide that value by 12 which would be 7.4 lbs-ft.
TB
ok, well you should mention that its 18 ft pounds bc thats more common of a tool and for car noobies like me tryin to do this we broke that bolt, not ur fault but its ours, but u should still add it so no one else makes the mistake i did.
My response (I've lost my patience
):Dude, with all due respect, no one else snapped these bolts from my instructions because they all knew the difference between lbs-in and lbs-ft. This is exactly how the Service Manual calls out the torque. Besides, even if you didn't know how to read the inch/pound abbreviation, common sense would tell you that 89 foot pounds is waaaay too much for those small bolts; to put it into perspective, our aluminum wheel lug nuts get torqued to 90 foot pounds.. see the difference?
FWIW, you're still incorrect in calculating that the intake manifold bolts get torqued to 18 lbs-ft, that equates to 216 lbs-in.. probably would snap the bolt again. To calculate the correct torque of 89 lbs-in into foot pounds, you have to divide that value by 12 which would be 7.4 lbs-ft.
TB
Bill's laying the smack down
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That tool that sheared his intake manifold bolt from the other Forum just replied...
ok, well you should mention that its 18 ft pounds bc thats more common of a tool and for car noobies like me tryin to do this we broke that bolt, not ur fault but its ours, but u should still add it so no one else makes the mistake i did.
My response (I've lost my patience):
Dude, with all due respect, no one else snapped these bolts from my instructions because they all knew the difference between lbs-in and lbs-ft. This is exactly how the Service Manual calls out the torque. Besides, even if you didn't know how to read the inch/pound abbreviation, common sense would tell you that 89 foot pounds is waaaay too much for those small bolts; to put it into perspective, our aluminum wheel lug nuts get torqued to 90 foot pounds.. see the difference?
FWIW, you're still incorrect in calculating that the intake manifold bolts get torqued to 18 lbs-ft, that equates to 216 lbs-in.. probably would snap the bolt again. To calculate the correct torque of 89 lbs-in into foot pounds, you have to divide that value by 12 which would be 7.4 lbs-ft.
TB
ok, well you should mention that its 18 ft pounds bc thats more common of a tool and for car noobies like me tryin to do this we broke that bolt, not ur fault but its ours, but u should still add it so no one else makes the mistake i did.
My response (I've lost my patience
):Dude, with all due respect, no one else snapped these bolts from my instructions because they all knew the difference between lbs-in and lbs-ft. This is exactly how the Service Manual calls out the torque. Besides, even if you didn't know how to read the inch/pound abbreviation, common sense would tell you that 89 foot pounds is waaaay too much for those small bolts; to put it into perspective, our aluminum wheel lug nuts get torqued to 90 foot pounds.. see the difference?
FWIW, you're still incorrect in calculating that the intake manifold bolts get torqued to 18 lbs-ft, that equates to 216 lbs-in.. probably would snap the bolt again. To calculate the correct torque of 89 lbs-in into foot pounds, you have to divide that value by 12 which would be 7.4 lbs-ft.
TB
That was a well deserved smack down. Although I'm sure you lost a fan. +1 to the Tom comment. (Sorry Tom we have to make up for all the time you missed.)
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That tool that sheared his intake manifold bolt from the other Forum just replied...
ok, well you should mention that its 18 ft pounds bc thats more common of a tool and for car noobies like me tryin to do this we broke that bolt, not ur fault but its ours, but u should still add it so no one else makes the mistake i did.
My response (I've lost my patience):
Dude, with all due respect, no one else snapped these bolts from my instructions because they all knew the difference between lbs-in and lbs-ft. This is exactly how the Service Manual calls out the torque. Besides, even if you didn't know how to read the inch/pound abbreviation, common sense would tell you that 89 foot pounds is waaaay too much for those small bolts; to put it into perspective, our aluminum wheel lug nuts get torqued to 90 foot pounds.. see the difference?
FWIW, you're still incorrect in calculating that the intake manifold bolts get torqued to 18 lbs-ft, that equates to 216 lbs-in.. probably would snap the bolt again. To calculate the correct torque of 89 lbs-in into foot pounds, you have to divide that value by 12 which would be 7.4 lbs-ft.
TB
ok, well you should mention that its 18 ft pounds bc thats more common of a tool and for car noobies like me tryin to do this we broke that bolt, not ur fault but its ours, but u should still add it so no one else makes the mistake i did.
My response (I've lost my patience
):Dude, with all due respect, no one else snapped these bolts from my instructions because they all knew the difference between lbs-in and lbs-ft. This is exactly how the Service Manual calls out the torque. Besides, even if you didn't know how to read the inch/pound abbreviation, common sense would tell you that 89 foot pounds is waaaay too much for those small bolts; to put it into perspective, our aluminum wheel lug nuts get torqued to 90 foot pounds.. see the difference?
FWIW, you're still incorrect in calculating that the intake manifold bolts get torqued to 18 lbs-ft, that equates to 216 lbs-in.. probably would snap the bolt again. To calculate the correct torque of 89 lbs-in into foot pounds, you have to divide that value by 12 which would be 7.4 lbs-ft.
TB
Good thing you didn't supply the link to the other forum or I might have let him know what a D!ck he was
Naw not worth the time, but great reply Bill, politically correct and gracious on your part. And you taught him some fundemtal mechanics, all for free 
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That tool that sheared his intake manifold bolt from the other Forum just replied...
ok, well you should mention that its 18 ft pounds bc thats more common of a tool and for car noobies like me tryin to do this we broke that bolt, not ur fault but its ours, but u should still add it so no one else makes the mistake i did.
My response (I've lost my patience):
Dude, with all due respect, no one else snapped these bolts from my instructions because they all knew the difference between lbs-in and lbs-ft. This is exactly how the Service Manual calls out the torque. Besides, even if you didn't know how to read the inch/pound abbreviation, common sense would tell you that 89 foot pounds is waaaay too much for those small bolts; to put it into perspective, our aluminum wheel lug nuts get torqued to 90 foot pounds.. see the difference?
FWIW, you're still incorrect in calculating that the intake manifold bolts get torqued to 18 lbs-ft, that equates to 216 lbs-in.. probably would snap the bolt again. To calculate the correct torque of 89 lbs-in into foot pounds, you have to divide that value by 12 which would be 7.4 lbs-ft.
TB
ok, well you should mention that its 18 ft pounds bc thats more common of a tool and for car noobies like me tryin to do this we broke that bolt, not ur fault but its ours, but u should still add it so no one else makes the mistake i did.
My response (I've lost my patience
):Dude, with all due respect, no one else snapped these bolts from my instructions because they all knew the difference between lbs-in and lbs-ft. This is exactly how the Service Manual calls out the torque. Besides, even if you didn't know how to read the inch/pound abbreviation, common sense would tell you that 89 foot pounds is waaaay too much for those small bolts; to put it into perspective, our aluminum wheel lug nuts get torqued to 90 foot pounds.. see the difference?
FWIW, you're still incorrect in calculating that the intake manifold bolts get torqued to 18 lbs-ft, that equates to 216 lbs-in.. probably would snap the bolt again. To calculate the correct torque of 89 lbs-in into foot pounds, you have to divide that value by 12 which would be 7.4 lbs-ft.
TB
.....but only by 1 person
Next time, Bill, put it in Newton meters
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Should I get an O/R h while I'm at it? It's tempting. Which onedoes Brian have? Should I for my
daily driver?